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mediasuv 
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Posted: June 18, 2006 at 1:25 PM / IP Logged  
I have two JL Audio 12" W4, and I have been using them in a 140 litre (or rather 2 x 70 litre, it had a seperating wall) ported box in myt 1995 Chevy Suburban, driven by a SoundStream Li'l Wonder amp. And it sounded very good, both on low and too high volume... What kind of box should I build? -- posted image.The problem is that I now have less room because I have put a Propane tank (LPG costs less than half as much as gasoline here in Norway) in the back, and I'm gonna build a rather strange measured box: 8 inch high, 48 inches long and 16 inches wide. According to JL Audio's recommendations that means that I can build either one dual sealed box split in half, like the old ported box, or I can build a ported box for one of the subs. I like tight bass, and it's important that it soulds good on low volume. So could you please give me your opinion on this? I'm leaning toward a sealed box, but then I'm not exactly an expert on these things... What kind of box should I build? -- posted image. Thanks in advance!
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Posted: June 19, 2006 at 5:28 AM / IP Logged  

2.5 cubic feet of airspace would be enough air to use one sub, sealed.  Putting two drivers into that box would result in a peaky, higher frequency (54 Hz as opposed to 41 Hz) enclosure.  Take into consideration the way you like to listen to music, and to the resultant impedance load on the amplifier.  Weigh these factors to come to a conclusion.

WinISD should have that sub available already in its database, but look at every parameter and compare to your spec sheet.  See the sticky topic on WinISD above for more info.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
mediasuv 
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Posted: June 19, 2006 at 6:26 AM / IP Logged  
Thanks! But here,  http://mobile.jlaudio.com/pdfs/12W4_BDS.pdf, JL Audio recommends a volume of 1.25 cubic feet (35 litres) with sealed enclosures for that subwoofer. Do you mean that they are wrong? The ported box was built from the same recommendations (around 65 litres per speaker), and that worked perfectly.
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Posted: June 19, 2006 at 6:37 AM / IP Logged  
I hate not being able to edit posts here! What kind of box should I build? -- posted image. Anyway, I tried out the program, and it suggests a 100 litre sealed enclosure for only one of my subs. Kind of strange that it recommends something three times the manufacturer's recommendation, isn't it?
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Posted: June 19, 2006 at 8:37 PM / IP Logged  

Not unusual at all.  If you have the opportunity, read through past threads in this forum for info on this subject.  This is the gist of it if you are marketing your subwoofer product to the masses:

  • Show a size that is easy to find a box for.
  • Show a size that will fit most vehicles.
  • Show a size that will not weigh your car down extraordiarily.
  • Show a size that must be doubled because the going "in" thing is to use two subs.

You see where I'm going with this?  "At what trade-off point will this sub still perform better than my competitor's sub?"

That's why there are forums like this one and the programs for box-building that educated people create...for those consumers who are not just another one of the masses.

Also, if you would have read through the topic I mentioned above, you would know that WinISD looks only at achieving the flattest response (closest to .707) as possible, no matter how much air volume it takes.  You would also have found, by reading the featured guide, that the program is designed to be a working tool...not a "recommender" of box size.

Use it to your advantage.  You know how much space you have available, the program does not.

P.S.  You will be given the opportunity to edit once you become a standard member.  Keep posting!

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.

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