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Ignition Wiring for Viper 5901, 01 Celica


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proximity 
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I've got a viper 5901 for my 2001 toyota celica and I'm a bit confused as to how I need to wire the ignition wires. For my car I need to isolate the ignition wire as described in tech tip #1077. It seems the viper 5901 accounts for this, but I'm a bit confused as to what exactly I need to do.
There are 5 wires that reference the ignition wires for the 5901.
1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT
2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87
6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT
7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT
8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY
then on my car there are the two wires for ignition:
IGNITION 1 BLACK/ ORANGE (+)
IGNITION 2 BLUE/RED (+)
My first concern is that the pink wire for the 5901 is used as the input for the ignition, as well as output. If I wire it with a relay like shown in Tech tip #1077, it wouldn't have any way to know if the key was in. Should I connect the red wire to the car side of the ignition wire? In the description it's the "polarity feed" for the ignition #1 relay.
The pink/black wire description is what specifically mentions tech tip #1077. It says I can connect the pink/black wire to the key side of the wire, and then the pink/white wire to the car side. Would I be able to wire it like that, and then splice the pink wire from the 5901 directly into the blue/red (ignition 2) wire on the car?
Thanks for any help.
proximity 
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Here is the tech tip document: http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/DEI_1077_pdf.JPG
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Posted: May 11, 2009 at 10:17 PM / IP Logged  
I would wire the Viper's pink wire directly to the Ignition 2 in the car.
Then, use those three "flex relay" wires for the Ignition 1 wire that needs to be isolated.
If I'm remembering right (only installed one of those newer Vipers):
RED / white: constant
pink/white: ignition 1, car side
pink/black: ignition 1, key side.
And then, since your pink wire is connected to the car's Ignition 2, it'll still receive the proper input for programming purposes.
proximity 
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Over, so just to verify:
1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT <--- direct connect to ignition 2 wire
2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87 <--- this does have to be connected to the constant +12v? there is a RED / white white on the primary harness that connects to +12v constant
3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT <--- directly to accessory wire
4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) <--- start side of starter wire
5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE) <--- key side of start wire
6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT <--- this is the "polarity feed" for the ignition 1 relay, I ignore this?
7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT <--- car is of ignition wire
8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY <--- key side of ignition wire
9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT <--- again, the "polarity feed" (no idea what a polarity feed is) to the accessory and starter relays. Do I ignore this, or connect to +12v?
thanks guys...
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Nevermind, got it.
Works like a charm. :)

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