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asstpumpslimm 
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1995 cadillac fleetwood viper 5900 alarm
for the domelight supervision wire, can i use the courtesy light in the door panel. having a hard time finding the right wire
and the car has progressive locks. if i hit the factory unlock 1 time just the driver door unlocks, hit it a 2nd time within a few seconds and all four door unlock. also when the car is started it locks and when you put the shifter to park it unlocks.
anyone know how to retain the progressive locks for this vehicle.
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I have a '96 Roadmaster wagon, and I've had a '94 Caprice wagon too...pretty much the same car as yours.
1. In the driver's kick panel, behind the carpet and behind a sticky rubber sound insulator, it's easy to get to the back side of the driver's door pin switch. Or at least even if you can't get right to the back of the switch, you can get to the area where the wires come down.
Anyway, there should be a white wire there. It catches all four doors and you can use it as your door trigger. You can also connect your Viper's domelight supervision output there.
2. The doorlock motor wires that go to the motor inside the driver's door should be tan and gray, somwhere in/near that rubber boot that goes through into the door.
I never did progressive locks on my car, so I never went to look for those wires exactly.
Either the Viper's install guide, or if you just go to to the top of this site and click where it says Door Locks, should show you how to interrupt the driver's unlock motor wire and connect it to a relay.
asstpumpslimm 
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cool i forgot to even ask about the door trigger. when i hook the domelight supervision up to the door trigger wire do i have to add a relay or just wire it straight in.
also a major one for me. the neutral safety bypass. the manual shows 2 ways to wire it and one way being just ground the Neutral safety wire from the viper brain to a ground.
will it work doing it this way. im not worried about remote starting the car with the key in the ignition or in drive b/c you cant take the key out of the ignition unless its in park and my remote is with my keys so its kinda hard to remote start it in gear.
asstpumpslimm 
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o yea and i had already wired the door locks up how the manual says to the drivers door actuator. i looked at the lock diagrams here and theres like 10 different setups, some require relays and extra add on, some are straight forward wiring and honestly it confused the hell out of me. i might just leave it alone
asstpumpslimm 
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on the domelight supervision i know i need a relay i wasnt thinking right. what confused me is how to wire it.
it says 1 to 12v power, 1 to BLACK/ white domelight wire on alarm, 1 to door trigger, 1 to domelight supervision polarity
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Here's how you wire it

Pin 87- to the door trigger wire in car

pin 85- to the BLACK/ white wire from alarm

pin 86- to 12volts

pin 30- Ground

asstpumpslimm 
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got ya, thats how i thought it went just wanted to confirm so i dont mess anything up.all i have to do now is find that door trigger wire now. after that hook power up and it should be good
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Domelight: The white wire at the driver's doorpin is low-current, no relay needed from the Viper's domelight supervision output.
Progressive doorlocks: I'm a little tired and I just got home and I hope I read your post correctly......but if you're saying that you wired it up a certain way according to the manual, please explain exactly what you connected to where so we can help.
Neutral safety: The Viper install manual should have a special section about car's with mechanical neutral safety switches, particularly older GMs and some Dodge trucks.
In short, there's no electrical neutral safety switch on your car, and therefore no neutral safety wire that can be connected to.
If you put the car in Reverse or Drive, try to move the key to the Start position, and you'll see that you can't. It's actually a mechanical part of the steering column that prevents you from turning the key.
If you look at the install guide, you'll see that they want you to tie into the car's keysense wire and door trigger wires.............this is so that in the rare event someone somehow leaves the key in the Off position, the car in Reverse or Drive, that the remote start won't work.
Most installers don't bother with the extra work----they usually just either connect the BLACK/ white neutral safety wire to ground and call it a day.
But it's your install and you make the decision---just take a quick look at that part of the manual so you at least understand it, before deciding.
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at first i didnt know if it was required to use the neutral safety wire form the alarm, then after a long search i found you can ground it and be done with it, thats what i done.
for the lock i just went with the blue and green lock/unlock wires to the drivers door lock. i dont know anything about the progressive system and thats the one thing i'll take to a shop and have them do if it doesnt open the doors unless you guys know something i dont.
for the domelight supervision, the manual said use a relay thats why i asked.
way off topic here
as for neutral safety and a manual transmission car, i highly advise using the safety feature. long story short i work at a bodyshop. someone left an s2000 honda in 1st and put the e-brake on. i didnt know, and whoever done the alarm didnt hook the safety wire up, i hit the remote start and the car ran into our building, only messed our gutter up and the car was fine since we havent begun repairs on it yet

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