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Posted: September 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM / IP Logged  
I have a 2000 Dodge Neon (Automatic Transmission) with a Viper 5501 and DLPKCHG1-CHRY3 bypass.
Symptoms: When I key the remote start button on the key fob, the key fob initiates the remote start sequence and I hear the 5501 box clicking but the engine does not start.
When I run the Remote Start Startup Diagnostics I get 9 Flashes indicating "Low Battery (Voltage Mode)"
I have verified that the H3/4 (Violet) Starter Output wire on the 5501 is connected to the 14 ga. yellow wire at the driver's kick panel and probed it with a test light while turning the ignition key to make sure its getting a good connection.
I have also verified that the H3/1 (Pink) Ignition 1 Input/Output wire is connected to the 18 ga. Blue/White wire in the cloth tape above the driver's kick panel by probing the wire with a test light while turning the key to ignition.
The remote start does not work with the key in the ignition or with the key turned to accessory and I also cannot start the car then activate the remote start and have the car remain on after I remove the key. Essentially I can't get it to work at all.
If I can provide anymore information please let me know. Thank you for your help.
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Posted: September 26, 2011 at 3:30 PM / IP Logged  

Did the remote start ever work?

The Ignition wire should be Dark Blue @ the ignition switch harness.

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It never worked.
I was going based off this post here: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~662
If I need to change it to the Dark Blue wire I will try that instead. Do you think it will make a difference?
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I changed it to the Dark Blue wire and it acts the same.
Just to clarify on my earlier post by saying "it never worked" I mean that I have never gotten it to remote start, but the system itself is new.
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Posted: September 26, 2011 at 7:30 PM / IP Logged  

Here is another wiring guide for reference  :  http://www.readyremote.com/main.asp?make=Dodge&model=Neon

Try connecting the Tach wire and programming for Tach Mode ( Menu 3, Item 2, Opt 4 ).  Do the Tach Learn and then try a remote start.

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Posted: September 26, 2011 at 7:59 PM / IP Logged  
i remember a while back that i had a problem just like this on a neon but it was a little newer, maybe 2004 model, but the problem was a wire that wasnt on ANY wiring diagram that i could find. i cant remember exactly what color it turned out to be because its been a long time and probably the only neon ive ever done but definitely check any wires that you dont have hooked up at the ignition harness and verify how it behaves. when you find one that behaves like an ignition, tap it too and your problems should be over.
btw, an easy test for the future to find out if you are not powering up all the wires you need for remote start is to study how the lights on the instrument cluster behave while using the key to go through the cycle and start the car, remote start should act exactly the same if you have it right.
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Kreg357: I'll give the tach mode a shot tomorrow. Right now I have the tach wire tapped into the BLACK/ Gray at the ignition coil.
Soundnsecurity: Right now I only have one ignition wire connected up but I did find on this list here: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/alarmdetail/4.html another ignition wire but it appears to be the same wire as the accessory so maybe its a typo?
Additionally, the Viper 5501 has four ignition wires on the 8 pin remote start connector. Right now I have the Ignition 1 input/output (Pink) connected up to the dark blue ignition wire. I have the Red Ignition 1 Input, RED / White Ignition 2/flex relay input 87, and the Pink/White Ignition 2/flex relay output all disconnected. Should I find an additional ignition wire, my instinct is to connect it up to the Red Ignition 1 Input. Would I be correct in making that assumption?
I will give these both a shot tomorrow and see where I stand. Thanks for the help so far.
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Posted: September 27, 2011 at 4:59 AM / IP Logged  

If you connected to the Tach wire, change Viper to Tach Mode and do the Tach Learn.

The H3 wiring is part of your problem.   Test and verify all ignition wires.

H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT                                 Dark Blue @ Ignition Switch

H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGN2 / FLEX RELAY         +12V @ Battery
H3/3 ORANGE ACCESSORY OUTPUT                                      BLACK/ Orange @ Ignition Switch
H3/4 VIOLET STARTER OUTPUT                                               Yellow @ Ignition Switch
H3/5 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT                          +12V @ Battery
H3/6 PINK/WHITE IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT             BLACK/ White @ Ignition Switch   ** Program Menu3, Item8, Opt2
H3/7 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A of FLEX RELAY     Not Used
H3/8 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT      +12V @ Battery

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Posted: September 27, 2011 at 8:54 AM / IP Logged  
well theres your problem, you havent hooked the ignition 1 input up to constant 12 volts. this is the only way you will get any ignition output.
ignition inputs all go to constant 12v, ignition outputs go to whatever ignitions are in the vehicle.
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Posted: September 27, 2011 at 10:17 AM / IP Logged  

soundnsecurity - I figured it was something silly that I was missing. I was under the impression those did not need to be hooked up based on the wiring diagrams that I printed but I'm glad to see that its just something that I plain out didn't do.... those are usually the easiest types of problems to fix. 2000 dodge neon viper 5501 inop -- posted image.

I'm at work right now and I'll give it a shot as soon as I get home... thanks again for all the help.

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