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mmsharris 
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i have a python 574 that i want to put in my sons 1995 f150. i downloaded install guide and wiring diagram from your site before i even  purchased it, but when  started to install the remote start section i realized i have no idea if i need a flex relay or not. your wiring diagram only mentions one ignition wire if i dont need a rela then what do i do with the python wires that go to the relay? thanks for any help you can give me. i serched your site and ive gotten mixed answers, from what i can  tell.
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Posted: April 06, 2013 at 4:03 PM / IP Logged  

Might want to pull out your Digital Multi Meter on this truck.  The info I have says

you might have 5 Yellow +12V constant wires and the following ignition wires :

Starter = RED / Light Blue

Ignition1 = RED / Light Green
Ignition2 = Gray / YELLOW ( thin ) for ABS
Accessory1 = Gray / YELLOW ( thick ) for heater blower motor
Accessory2 = BLACK/ Light Green for Heat / AC controls

If you want to power everything during remote start, not only will you need the

Flex Relay, but you will need another 30/40 Amp SPDT relay with fuse.

Soldering is fun!
mmsharris 
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Posted: April 06, 2013 at 4:56 PM / IP Logged  

thank  you for the quick reply. i am a stereo guy not an alarm guy. i do have five yellow wires,  but my sons heat doesnt work. the a/c works though. so do i ignore the other flex relay labeled wires and tape them back? i think the only function my son wants is to start the truck and roll down the windows

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Posted: April 06, 2013 at 7:14 PM / IP Logged  

Here is how your H3 harness should look :

H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 IN/OUT            RED / Light Green
H3/2 RED / WHITE  +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)                Yellow #1
H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT          Gray / YELLOW ( Thick )
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)          RED / Light Blue  - cut engine side
H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE) RED / Light Blue  - cut key side
H3/6 RED IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)          Yellow #2    
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT      Gray / YELLOW ( Thin )
H3/8 PINK/BLACK (87a) FLEX RELAY INPUT         Not Used
H3/9 RED / BLACK  +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)     Yellow #3
H3/10 NC No Connection

H1/1 Red +12V Input should go to Yellow #4.

That cover 4 of the 5 ignition wires.  To power thew 5th wire ( BLACK/ Light Green ), get a

30/40 Amp SPDT automotive relay with 5 Pin harness and a 30 Amp fuse with holder.
Depending on how the wire tests, you can use either of these Python wires to control
the relay.
H2/10 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT
H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT

Wire relay as follows :

Relay Pin 85 to Python H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT
Relay Pin 86 and Pin 87 to +12 Constant - Yellow #5 thru 30 Amp fuse
Relay Pin 30 to  BLACK/ Light Green
Relay Pin 87A not used - insulate

Here is a link to a similar truck.  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~133810~PN~1

At the end is some info on the use of a relay coil quenching diode.  It is optional but could
help your expensive Python system to survive many years of trouble free use.

Thats it, all done.

Soldering is fun!
mmsharris 
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Posted: April 06, 2013 at 9:57 PM / IP Logged  

Thank You so very much for the info. hope to get this fired up tomorrow.

any idea if i can get this thing to raise and lower his windows with the remote?

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Posted: April 06, 2013 at 10:21 PM / IP Logged  

Windows = relays, plenty of relays....  Or the nicely packaged Directed 530T module.  

Fortunately the Python has plenty of AUX outputs, but depending on exactly what you want to do you might need a BitWriter to set the exact time / options.

Here is a link to the 530T install guide :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=758

Soldering is fun!
mmsharris 
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Posted: April 07, 2013 at 9:57 AM / IP Logged  

starter input and output. i have one small RED / light blue at ignition switch, how do i find the key side of the wire? the one i can see is energized with key in crank position.

mmsharris 
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haha sorry nevermind. my brain just woke up

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