Viper 5706v w/Dball2 to 2001 civic 2door MT

Hello I'm a new member here and this is my first post. I have searched high and low for info on my particular make model car (2001 Honda Civic Coupe MT) along side model viper (5706v) and interface bypass module (Dball2 flashed with firmware HONDA4) wiring specifics and came up with nothing. I'm hoping that questions asked and answered in this forum will be of assistance to not only myself but others having similar issues. If there is already topics out there that cover this i apologize for redundancy but I've spent hours and only come up with make and models earlier or later than 01-05 civic remote start wiring. I have never installed a remote security system before but feel that i am capable enough for the task with slightly above novice knowledge of basic DIY. So my issue is I think I've wired this up correctly to the Dball2 Honda4 installation type 3 schematic given along side the wiring diagram i have for my make model and year of my car and everything works besides when i attempt to remote start it's giving an error with 7 count flash code which indicates that MTRS not engaged which i have tried again and again with these steps (while car is on and running place foot on break, activate parking break, open door and within 20sec press command on remote to activate remote start mode. I've done this and still get remote start error. Am i missing something? Maybe I've not wired correctly? Or failed to program dball2 functions or viper functions correctly? And if viper and dball2 are connected does one module take over as primary function programming interface? Because my viper does not seem to want to take any function program with lack of response in chirps or flashes or led indicators. While dball2 seems more responsive to flash # option # led indicators and tends to flash more times than dball2 function are avalable from what dball2 programming instructions state ie 6 functions are all ive seen for dball2 while the led on the dball2 will flash green up to 9x and red up to 6x or 7x i can't remember exactly. So if someone could give me a detailed check list of wire connections from both units to vehicle if there are any relays required for this install and if there are any tips on programming these units initially to activate something I'm missing would be worth many a charitable beer as my thanks for their knowledge and patience as they help me through this process! Much obliged thanks with Paypal donations. Thank you for your time and what you guys do here is above and beyond from what I've read so far!!We're all sheep

By the way I'm using a D2D connection rather than W2WWe're all sheep

Two things quickly come to mind.

1.  Did you connect the Viper to a proper Tach signal and get a successful Tach Learn?  The Viper must be in Tach Mode when

     running in Manual Transmission Mode.

2.  Did you connect the Vipers' BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY /PARKING BRAKE INPUT wire to the Civics' (-) Parking Brake wire?

Looking closely at the DB-ALL-2 Honda4 Type3 diagram, it appears they omitted a very important wire for your manual transmission

install. You might have already caught this error being as you are doing a 5706 Alarm system install.  The DB-ALL2 does not supply the Door Status signal.  You must make this connection directly from the Viper GREEN (-) DOOR INPUT to the Civics' door pins.These wires are found at the Civics' green Factory Alarm Plug in the DKP as follows :Drivers Door = GreenPassengers door = Light Green / RedThe above wire colors are on a 4 door Civic and might be different on your 2 door model, so testing is necessary.  You will need two 1N4001 diodes for this to isolate theses signals.

The other item not mentioned in the DB-ALL2 install guide is the Clutch bypass.  The engine will not crank unless the clutch

pedal is depressed.  With a R/S install on a manual transmission vehicle, you must temporarily bypass this interlock during aremote start while allowing it to function normally at all other times.  How did you achieve this?

There are some other common "rookie" mistakes due to poor / incomplete Viper documentation. 

If you followed the DB-ALL2 Honda4 Type 3 directions, you connected the Viper thick Pink/White IGN2 wire to the Civics' thick WHITE/ Red ACC2 wire.  You must also change Viper Menu 3, Item 8 to Option 2.The Viper has low power (-) ignition outputs on the 24 Pin Connector.  These are not used and should not be connected.

Finally, the Viper must see the the Civics' Ignition, Brake, Door Status and Parking Brake signals in a certain sequence to get into

Reservation Mode.  You should verify all these Viper connections.

Soldering is fun!

Thank you kreg357 i think you may have answered everything that i needed to know for this install I'm going to go to radio shack and grab those diodes and get that going and i will update my results as soon as i can! Thank you very much for your time i am very appreciative!!We're all sheep

As far as the clutch bypass no i have not and what would you recommend the best course of action in which to achieve this would be?We're all sheep

I have bypassed the clutch with a wire to ground with inline toggle switch tested and working. I believe tach is learned w single flash of parking light indicating it's not virtual tach connection. Umm i keep getting remote start error and can't seem to get the car into reservation mode?? Could i have possibly incorrectly connected ignition starter acc from viper instructions? And can you also diagram the diode wire up you mentioned with the green from viper to my door wires thank you!! And if you have a PayPal I'd be more than happy to buy you a few beers for your time and to show my gratitudeWe're all sheep

Sorry never mind on the diode wire up i remember how to do thatWe're all sheep

Haven't done that Gen Civic for a while. Don't do too many manual transmission vehicles, either. Basically, you will find two switches and connectors at the top of the clutch pedal. One is to turn off the Cruise Control and actuates at the beginning of pedal movement. The other is the starter interlock and actuates at the bottom of pedal movement. You will need a Digital Multi Meter to determine what type of signal is present and how the switch works. On Honda's, it is typically a low current signal getting passed through the switch when the pedal is fully depressed. Onced you determine what is there, you can bypass accordingly. Here is some info that came up with a quick search. 1.) "To bypass the clutch temporarily, apply a low current negative trigger, such as status,      to light-green wire at the switch." 2.) https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1137 The first one sounds correct and can be bypassed easily with a direct connection of the (-) 2nd Status or (-) Ignition output signal from the Viper. The second option, using a (+) Clutch Bypass wire at the front of the Fuse Box, I have never tried. That diagram does give you the location of the Parking Brake wire, Brake wire, Tach wire and Door Pins. I would use the (-) Parking Light wire at the Headlight switch. Please test and verify all of this info with a DMM before making any R/S connections. If the clutch wire you grounded is Light Green, remove the added switch and connect the Viper signal (-) 2nd Status. To get into Reservation Mode the Viper has to see : Parking Brake Brake Door Trigger If you haven't connected the Door Triggers, that is probably the reason. The Door Status wire will allow the Viper Alarm to monitor the doors and you need it to get into Viper Programming Mode.Soldering is fun!

This is probably all wrong lol my remote start 10pin harness to my civic brown ignition harness is wired as follows... Viper-RED / blk fused 12v acc/start input To Civic-WHITE/ red Acc Viper-red fused 12v ign 1 To Civic-blk / YELLOW ign + Viper-pink/white ign 2 To Civic-WHITE/ red acc 2 Viper-green starter input To Civic-blk/white cut on key side Viper-violet starter out To Civic-blk/white cut to car side Viper-Orange acc out To Civic-blk/red acc+ Viper-RED / white fused 12v ign 2 To Civic-white 12v constant Viper-pink ign 1 input To Civic-blk / YELLOW ing+ Viper-pink/blk not connected Yes that seems a bit off lolWe're all sheep

Remote Start, 10-pin heavy gauge connector  2001 Civic Ign Plug 1 NC No Connection 2 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED 12V ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT      White 3 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side        Not Used 4 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT   Set to ACC2  WHITE/ Red 5 RED (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 1 INPUT White 6 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)  BLACK/ White 7 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) BLACK/ White 8 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT BLACK/ Red 9 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED 12V IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87 White 10 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT        BLACK / YELLOWSoldering is fun!