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ceaesq 
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Posted: September 12, 2003 at 9:52 AM / IP Logged  

I have a Valet 551t add-on remote starter and the DEI 555C Chrysler transponder bypass module that I want to add to my 03 PT Cruiser GT.  I have all the included instructions and wiring charts needed.  After reviewing these many, many times, and reviewing this, the DEI and the carsound forums, I am left with the following questions that any help with would be appreciated before I start splicing wires!

I have determined that the Chrysler remote will work when the car is already running (by key and in Park), starting the car does not set off the factory alarm (at least when it is set from the inside such that opening the door will trigger it), and the car of course has starter anti-grind and neutral safety starter lockout protections.

I have no remote start or alarm install experience, but do all my own car maintenance and modifications, and have installed many electrical accessories in cars and can follow (clear) directions.  I'd like to avoid adding more relays, resistors or diodes, as I only have a vague understanding of them.

So, my questions are:

1.  The 555C says to hook its blue (-) activation input wire to the "(-) through activation output of the remote start system."  Is this the WHITE/ blue "(-) activation input" wire in the 551t primary harness, which says it can be connected to an auxiliary channel of a security system or to a keyless entry system?  I assume it's not since I don't know how pressing the OEM remote would send a signal to the 555C or remote start that way, but the similarity in wording is throwing me off.

2.  Assuming the answer above is no, does the 555C connect to the 551t light GREEN/ black (-) factory security disarm wire which supplies a single negative pulse when remote start occurs, thereby energizing the 555C transponder?

3.  Since starting the car (at least with the key) doesn't set off the alarm, do I have to connect the 551t yellow (+) ignition output wire to the ignition input of the OEM security or keyless entry modules?  (Note that the Chrysler service manual only shows ignition "output" wires for the security and keyless modules.)

4.  I understand that I can use the unused 551t pink/white (+) second ignition output wire to flash the lights (instead of the white(-) light flash output wire with relay); is this correct?  Any reason I can't flash the headlights instead of the parking lights since my OEM remote already flashes the parking lights?

5.  If I don't want/need the toggle override switch, I understand I can just permanently ground the 551t BLACK/ white neutral safety switch input wire (as the vehicle already has such a lockout feature); is this correct?

6.  Assuming the 551t WHITE/ blue (-) activation input should be connected to the OEM keyless entry system, and since I want to use the 3x pulse on the OEM LOCK button to trigger a remote start, but do not necessarily need to trigger the door locks when doing so, can I just connect the activation wire to the main door lock relay output (ORANGE / black) wire or driver door lock relay output wire (without adding the DEI specified relays and resistors, since the 551t activation wire just needs to receive 3 pulses from this wire)?

7.  Can I connect everything as proposed, following all the normal precautions, to see if it works and tests out OK, without damaging the existing systems?

Under the above proposed wiring scenario, it would appear that I don't need to connect the 551t (+) yellow ignition output to RF wire, (-) white light flash output wire, (-) gray/black diesel wire (other than to ground it while programming the 555C module), light green & light blue no function wires, (-) blue status/factory security rearm output wire, (-) blue/black third ignition output wire, or the violet/white tachometer input wire (to use voltage sense feature).

I understand that this would leave the car security alarm unarmed during the remote start, but I am comfortable with that as the doors will be locked and even if someone gets in, without a key the car will shut off when the brake pedal is pressed, which has to happen to take it out of Park.

Please advise if I've missed or misunderstood anything so I don't set my car on fire!

Thanks very much, Chuck.

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Posted: September 12, 2003 at 1:09 PM / IP Logged  
question one and here you go.
the 555c needs one a constant and a negative. ok you can tap the red constant wire to one of the red heavy guage wires fromt he remote start relay pack after the fuse and close to the relay pack so it is fused protected. and eliminating another wire going to harness of car. the blue wire needs tp be conencted to the blue wire of the 551t so that the remote start will supply the negative for the bypass.
two.the yellow ignition wire from 551t is only if you have an after market alarm system,.
three. you can use the unused pink white wire for p lights but this wire is not unused it is needed. you can use the pinkwhite to control the radios acc wire. this is the low current acc wire it is the second acc wire listed on deis web. and if you use it for p lights than you will not get a flashing affect.
four. you will need two external relays as well as the four for the remote start.
the relays are the positive to negative activation relay
pin85 pos input from vehicle lock motor wire.
pin86 and 87 ground.
pin 30 output to the white blue wire of the remote start.
the second is for the p lights
pin 86 and 87 constant 12 fused.
pin 85 white wire negative input from remote start system.
pin 30 pos output to the black yellow parking light wire from the car. found at switch,. or high in drivers kick.
thats it for relays.
five.
yes you can just ground e black white wire for constant ground
you have to use the lock motor wire from car through a relay to activate the remote start system.
you need the pink white wire for second acc so you will need to do the relay setup for parking lights.
you have to use the status(blue) connected to the bypass mod so the car will start. the green black factory disarm wire may or may not have to be connected to he vehicles factory disarm wire through a resistor. 7200 ohm resistor. this will disable the factory alarm and not have it go off when remote starting the car. trust me it goes off may not be eveytime but they go off. the wait to start gray black not used.
yellow ignition not used.
blue black not used. violet white for tach gray for hood pin. this should help print this or email me at nyinstaller@netscape.net for help. but you do want to use the factory disarm , tach, hoodpin, blue status output, all wires of remote start relay pack, white blue after relay, white negaive relay trigger wire, that about it.
ps you do not want to flash the headlights it will shorten the life of the bulbs and the factory system actually uses the hazards not the parking lights.
Jon
Installer/Help Technician
---coral springs florida---
mecp certification is not always needed. I have it and it has not helped me out at all. my experience out shines it.

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