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Htfan1

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Posted: September 22, 2004 at 6:52 PM / IP Logged

I'm new to this forum and already very impressed with the knowledge here!

I'm considering a Clifford G5 Arrow 5 for my 1995 Mercedes C220. However, I'd like the forum's input prior to purchasing and installing the unit. (BTW, I don't need remote start.) I'm primarily looking for a solid basic alarm.

Will this unit work with the vacuum door locks?

Are there wiring diagrams available for the C220 or any other information for installing this alarm specifically in my car?

I appeciate any assistance!

Teken

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Posted: September 22, 2004 at 7:35 PM / IP Logged

Mercedes-Benz

C Class

1994-1997

Alarm and Keyless Entry Wiring Colors and Notes

Function

Vehicle Color

Location

Constant +12 Volts:

RED

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Starter Kill:

VIOLET

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition +12 Volts:

PINK/RED

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Dome Lights/Superv:

FRONT - BROWN / GRAY

REAR - BROWN / GRAY / YELLOW DOTS BOTH(-)

OEM Horn:

BLACK OR BROWN / BLACK

(-) STEERING COLUMN HARNESS

Power Lock:

BLACK

DRIVER'S KICK PANEL ***

Power Unlock:

BLUE

DRIVER'S KICK PANEL ***

Trunk Release:

VIOLET

AT TRUNK RELEASE SWITCH

Alarm Input Wire:

FRONT - BROWN / GRAY

REAR - BROWN / GRAY / YELLOW DOTS BOTH(-)

Notes:

** Split Parking Light System - must use relays to isolate the circuits from each other.. Diode Isolate Each Wire. *** See Note #201 - Negative Pulse Door Lock Diagram

Teken

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Posted: September 22, 2004 at 7:37 PM / IP Logged

http://www.designtech-intl.com/Content/techsupport/documents/section04/note201.pdf

This will show you how to wire your door locks.

Regards

EVIL Teken . . .

Teken

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http://www.directechs.com/guides/manuals/ig/clifford/N909595_3-03.pdf

This is the installation manual for the alarm in question, assuming you are selecting this one.

Regards

EVIL Teken . . .

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Posted: September 23, 2004 at 1:01 PM / IP Logged

you know.... Clifford makes a great product... and you certainly cant go wrong with the G5 stuff.....

Kevin Gerry

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Classic Car Audio

since 1979

Htfan1

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Posted: September 23, 2004 at 3:21 PM / IP Logged

Great information! Thank you for all the feedback.

A couple more questions popped up.

1) Door locks: Do I use the procedure documented for vacuum locks in the Arrow 5 installation manual (and this website) or use the information in note201.pdf above? (They seem very different.)

2) Alarm wiring information above: Are these the recommended wires I use for a Clifford (or other non-Mercedes) alarm installation, or are these the wires used for a mercedes factory alarm?

3) Clifford 509-U interior sensor: I like the option of protecting entry to the car through an open sun roof or window. What information is available for this sensor? Any experiences out there that you can share? (I've had something similar on another car with an Alpine alarm - 8058 I believe.)

Again, I appreciate any feedback provided!

Teken

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Posted: September 23, 2004 at 7:44 PM / IP Logged

1. Use the information as it pertains to vacuum locks.

2. These are the exact wires which you need to interface to the vehicle so as the alarm will function. It is indeed specific to your vehicle.

3. I do not have any information as it pertains to this device.

Regards

EVIL Teken . . .

Htfan1

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Posted: September 24, 2004 at 3:19 PM / IP Logged

Thank you again!

I was wondering about one other thing. The vacuum lock doucmentation mentions a single wire that changes polarity depending on lock status. However, the wiring info mentions two wires:

Power Lock:

BLACK

DRIVER'S KICK PANEL ***

Power Unlock:

BLUE

DRIVER'S KICK PANEL ***

Can I use either wire for this purpose? Or do I need to locate a different wire for the vacuum pump?

Thanks,

Jeff

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