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jesper

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Posted: November 18, 2005 at 12:16 PM / IP Logged

Hello All,

Wow! I've been reading all the posts regarding an alarm install on the Lincoln Navigator; it seems like a complicated task. I have a 98 Navigator and in the process of installing an aftermarket alarm. I have a degree in electronics and have installed multiple stereo systems on all my vehicles. Thus, I know basic electronics and how it works, but I have not installed any alarm systems at all. Still a virgin when it comes to that kind of battle! = )

My question is:

1. What would be the best, cost effective, versatile, with a lot of options, and future expansions (modules) alarm out there?

2. Is seems like I would run into numerous complications on installing the system myself. Is it worth the effort by installing the system myself and saving a couple of hundred dollars, or am I going to spend more than a two days installing it and getting it to work and wish I just had it proffesionally installed?

Please advise!!

Thank you,

Jonas

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Posted: November 18, 2005 at 1:34 PM / IP Logged

If you aren't familliar with alarms, You might want to seek out a pro. This is not a difficult vehicle once you have done a few of them, but for the alarm novice It's gonna be a little tough. As far as picking a unit is concerned, they are all pretty similar. I would pick one with a remote start tho. If you want a Remotestart/alarm, I like 2 units. One is the autopage 855 LCD, and the other is the scytek Galaxy 5100RS. They are both 2-way units, meaning that they will page you if the alarm is triggered, and they both work well with almost any vehicle. The Autopage has more features, but the scytek is more intaller and user friendly, an dhas a 2-way remote with a true color picture. Scytek also makes one called the Vision guard 6000, that is identical to the 5100 rs but has a camera built into the antenna and allows the user to monitor the interior of his vehicle from the remote.

Northstart.....or start it your damn self.

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Posted: November 18, 2005 at 1:39 PM / IP Logged

1. That depends on who you ask - in my opinion Directed Electronics(maker of Viper, Python, Valet, Rattler, Hornet, and other brands) are by far the best. They have a slight premium, but their tech support and accessory selection is basically unmatched. Audiovox and Scytek aren't too bad either.

2. This answer depends on how valuable your time is, and what system you get...alarm only will probably take 4-5 hours, remote start might take twice that given that it's your first security install. A '98 Navigator's not a fiendishly difficult vehicle to do, really.

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Posted: November 18, 2005 at 2:17 PM / IP Logged

If your not a dealer and you "find someone to sell you a DEI" you get NO technical support...or warranty

chriswallace187

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Correct me if I'm wrong KarTuneMan, but I've sold DEI's Rattler line before and they were marketed as D-I-Y stuff - they had an instruction CD-ROM in the package, as well as a card with an 800 number and a code to get online tech. support.

I know that Viper, Python, and Sidewinder lines are dealer-install only to get the warranty, but the other lines aren't mentioned in there.

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jesper

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Posted: November 21, 2005 at 11:38 AM / IP Logged

Thanks for all your input. They were all valuable on helping me choose the right one for my truck. After thinking it over the weekend, I have decided to get the Python 881xp Responder and had it installed through an authorized dealer to get the warranty. The total price was $450! Plus it gave me 3 aux channels.

I wanted to have four of my windows roll up and down, but they were charging me $250 for it installed. Also, they advised me not to get the IR Motion radar; too many false alarms. Can’t you set the sensitivity setting on it?

I have gone to the site asianwolf.com and they were selling “smart window modules” that would roll up 4 windows or 2 windows up and down for $26. They also have the motion sensor for $16. Are these “okay” modules or am I going to get what I paid for? I’m thinking that it would be now easier to install these modules given the install guide from DEI. Although, from looking at the diagram, I was glad that I didn’t do the install myself especially when it came to wiring the remote start. .. I still have no idea on how to tackle the installation of the window modules; to find the wires on where to connect the window module. Any ideas??

tragik

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Posted: November 21, 2005 at 9:19 PM / IP Logged

With the window modules on that truck, in my opinion, its easiest to tag the wires at the window switch, espesially for a novice. I am sure that the modules from that site are probobly ok, since all they are really is relays and current sensors. As far as the motion sensor is concerned, I wouldn't do one. They do have a sensitivity adjustment on them, but adjusting them involves far more than just twisting a knob. You have to wire it up, mount it in the location it will end up, put anything that covers it back in the vehicle, test it, and then pull it back out, adjust it, test it, and so on, sometimes for hours. Then when you are done, hope that the tem,perature never changes outside of the car, because its sensitivity will change based on the weather. I would think that a tilt sensor is your best bet. This will help protect your car from getting towed, or jacked up so someone can steal your wheels. Most vehicle thefts nowdays are done with a tow truck any way.

Northstart.....or start it your damn self.

jesper

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Posted: November 22, 2005 at 2:24 PM / IP Logged

Tow truck? Wow! Sounds like something you'd see in a movie! Something that professionals do!

Thanks to the addition of your input, Tragik, I am now convinced of not getting the motion and getting the tilt sensor instead. I understand how a tilt sensor would prevent the truck from getting lifted up to jack the wheels, but how will it prevent the truck from getting towed?

WINDOW MODULES: Where do I tie in on the window? Do I have to run wires through the driver-side doors switch or are these wires accessible behind the panel?

chriswallace187

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Posted: November 22, 2005 at 3:27 PM / IP Logged

The tilt sensor won't prevent the truck from being towed...it will trigger the alarm if it detects the truck being lifted up.

Also, the window modules are easiest to mount inside the driver's door since you have all 4 windows' wires accessible there. The only wires you will need to run into the door are 12v constant, ground, and the up and down triggers from the alarm brain. The actual window wires just need run from the modules to the switch.

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