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dsm93 
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Posted: October 24, 2006 at 5:40 PM / IP Logged  
I have a 1993 Eagle Talon. I'm using a Thor alarm/starter/keyless entry unit. I have the alarm working fine but I can't get the starter to work. Here is a pic of the instructions that came with the unit. The translation is terrible.
93 Talon, alarm/remote start -- posted image.
I've got a few questions about the starter, the blue wire coming from No2 relay goes to the starter wire. The white wire I don't have connected since it goes to the IGN1 wire and so does the black wire. The black wire wire I have connected to the IGN1 wire, now here is where I get confused.
On the breaker relay I have the blue going to ACC and the yellow going to the yellow wire from the main unit but what do I do with the green wires? I hooked both green wires to the IGN1 wire and then connected the black wire to one of the green wires. When I went to turn on my car my highbeams came on and would only turn off if I disconnected the black wire from the green wire.
How am I supposed to hook these wires up? Am I supposed to cut the IGN1 wire between the 2 green wires? Do I need to connect the white wire to IGN1, or can I just connect it to the black wire?
The red wires I have connected to the constant 12V wire, is this correct?
Few more quick questions, on the main unit there are 2 brown wires that go to "direction light" do I connect these to the parking light cables? It says they both go to ground so there is no positive connection that I'll need to find, correct? Last question, for the yellow/black cable that goes to the motor, I just connect it to the tach wire and everything should be good to go?
Hopefully someone out there can make sence of these instructions and help me out.
dsm93 
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Posted: October 24, 2006 at 5:43 PM / IP Logged  
For some reason the picture isn't working so here is the full image 93 Talon, alarm/remote start -- posted image.
Mike M2 
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Posted: October 24, 2006 at 8:54 PM / IP Logged  

Wow, crazy. I gather they want you to do an ignition kill, not starter. In this case, yes, you cut the ignition wire and connect one green to the key side and one green to the car side. The black goes on the car side. The white must be connected to ignition too, as it seems that feeds ignition to the alarm brain to let it function correctly.

Yes, red wires to battery.

The two brown wires are for your parking lights, but they are positive not negative. If you look closely the diagram shows the actuall bulb and the other wire from the bulb grounded. They supply two because most Euro imports have separate left and right parking light wires whereas your car does not. Just use one of these wires and tape the other off, going to your positive parking light wire.

As for yellow/black, well, i would assume it's for tach by the diagram...

Also, it seems you are correct in regaurds to the blue being the starter wire. You could  take that breaker relay and apply that to the starter wire instead of the ignition, which is the way it's done in the USA. Just cut the starter wire instead of the ignition wire and connect black and white to igntion, then blue to the car side of the cut starter wire...

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dsm93 
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When you say they want me to do an ignition kill and not a starter I'm a bit confused. The relays are supposed to control the starter feature on the unit, and the alarm is supposed to take care of killing the ignition. What do you mean by they want me to do an ignition kill?
With the alternative way of connecting the breaker relay, the way it's done in the USA. Could I connect the black wire to the white wire then have either of them connected to the ignition wire? Then take one of the green wires from the break relay and connect it to the key side of the starter wire, cut the starer wire then connect the blue wire and the other green wire together then have either one going to the car side of the starter wire?
Thanks for the clarification Mike M2, I've asked a few other people and no one had a clear answer for me. Your help is much appreciated.
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Posted: October 25, 2006 at 3:28 PM / IP Logged  

""Could I connect the black wire to the white wire then have either of them connected to the ignition wire? "" Yes, all three need to be connected together.

""Then take one of the green wires from the break relay and connect it to the key side of the starter wire, cut the starer wire then connect the blue wire and the other green wire together then have either one going to the car side of the starter wire? "" Yes, this is correct. The other green, the blue, and the car side of the stsrter wire get connected together.

The Diagram shows the breaker(which is a kill relay) killing the ignition when the alarm is activated. Doing it the above way makes it a starter kill instead, much safer.

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dsm93 
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thanks for the clear up Mike M2, I'm going to be finishing this install after work today. My actuators just came in so looks like I'll be installing the power locks & keyless entry this weekend too. Thanks for the help, I'll post back how everything goes once it's all done.
dsm93 
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Posted: October 30, 2006 at 8:29 AM / IP Logged  
I tried and failed misurably. I couldn't get the starter to work for the life of me, then my alarm stopped working and the contant 12V wire was jumping anywhere from 0.2V-8.6V so I'm going to a pro.
Thanks for the help though Mike M2.

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