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86stanggt5.0 
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Posted: October 25, 2006 at 8:45 PM / IP Logged  

i am trying to put in a magicar fai 8100 remote start car alarm in a 86 mustang gt this car does not have power locks. do i have to have power locks? also when i go into code learning mode and turn the ignition on off 3x the siren is suppose to chirp twice but it just beeps once for about 3 seconds. what can be causing this? i can not get the remote to program

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No, you dont need power locks... just need to remember to lock te doors when ya leave! as far as theremote programing, read your directions very carfully you may need to press the valet button or something dumb like that.. I'm unframiliar with that rs / alarm... Check the antenna , and check all your connections.. may have an ign and accy mixed up....
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86stanggt5.0 
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http://alarmsellout.com/support/f-8100-wiring-diagram.pdf
here is the diagram
c3-2 to indicator light whats that?
door trigger input i cut the wire from the door trigger and hooked one wire to one side and the other to other side
hood trunk trigger i hooked to ground
handbrake light i hooked to ground
is this right?
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No.. you have things a but screwed up... 1st... door triggers... Most older cars are (-) trigger whenthe door opens.... and nothing when closed.. you need to hook c3-9 to the door trigger wires on the car [probably diode isolate too] hook c3-8 to a +12v. when the door opens it sends a ground and completes a circuit in the alarm unit, triggering the alarm... Hood and trunk input... same deal.. if you don't have a pin switch for either you need to add them.. when the hood opend the pin switch closes and sends a ground to the alarm, triggering it... I doubt the car has either... the hand brake light... this only needs to be connected if you have a manual transmition.. and if you do, it needs to see + 12 volts when the brake is engaged.. NOT A GROUND! this is a saftey sequense feature for remote start on sticks.... on he diagram there are + and - if the arow points to the brain, the unit needs to see either the + or - signal from the car.. if the arrow points away from the brain, the rs or alarm is SENDING a + or - to the car..... I would recheck your wireing really good, and also make sure ya didn't blow any fuses..... Good luck
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86stanggt5.0 
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Posted: October 25, 2006 at 10:29 PM / IP Logged  
thank you for the help. on the bottom of that page it says must connect c3-5 to ground otherwise engine wont start with remotes also when u said hook c3-8 to 12v is this any 12v does it have to be a constant 12v?
also the hood trunk trigger only has once wire do i have to add a 12v or is it allready a 12v and needs to be grounded
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Hmm c3-5 a bit confuseing.. says it's looking for a + but needs to see a ground when the brake is engaged.... well if you hook it to ground that should trick it into thinking the brake is engaged...might not be what you want. but should work.. The hood and trunk wire is looking for a ground only when the hood or trunk are open... when they are closed there should be no reading on the wire.... c3-8 yes needs to be constant... or the door monitoring ckt wont work.... I think thats it....
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86stanggt5.0 
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ok i hooked it up like u said but still nothing
this is how i did it
c1-1 red black to on red light green ignition to orange 86 on relay c1-2 YELLOW /GREEN to start WHITE/ pink starterto red number 30 on relay cut the WHITE/ pink wire and ran 87a to that c1-3 blue/white acc to BLACK/ light green acc c1-4 red to constant 12v c3-1 to ground c3-2 white indicator light did not use this wire c3-3 gray ignition 2 to relay 85 c3-4 to positive side of siren c3-5 BLACK/ red to ground c3-6 yellow to start disable relay 85 c3-7 RED / white trunk motor did not use c3-8 violet to to 12v constant c3-9 to door trigger c3-0 to hood trigger c4-1 to tach which is dark GREEN/ YELLOW on the coil do i have this right
here is my ignition wire colors
starter WHITE/ pink
ignition RED / light green
accessory BLACK/ light green
i pulled the whole thing out and started all over and still nothing
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Posted: October 26, 2006 at 3:03 PM / IP Logged  
Just a quick interjection....the 86 Mustang has Positive trigger doors, no diode isolation needed. If I am reading the manual correctly it shows pin C3-8 as the positive door trigger input, this is the wire you should hook to the BLACK/ blue door trigger in the kick panel with no connection to C3-9.
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ok thank you  i got the remote to program now on the remote start the ignition comes on like it should but does not crank the starter do i have something hooked up wrong?
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Posted: October 26, 2006 at 8:30 PM / IP Logged  

Try this:

Remove the C3-6 from the starter kill relay.  Then try to remote start it.  Most systems I have done, in addition to offering starter kill, have an anti-grind feature.  This anti-grind operates the same exact way a starter kill circuit operates in that it uses a relay to seperate the wire from the key switch to the starter.  This feature is nice, but if your system does have it and you wire it the way the manual tells you to, you will be activating the starter kill relay while remote starting.  Preventing +12V from getting to the starter.  Remove the C3-6 wire from the starter kill relay and try to start your car.  If the car starts, then reconnect C3-6 and move the C1-2 from pin 30 on the relay to pin 87a (the out side of the starter kill circuit).

Let us know how it goes.


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