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crt777 
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Here's my dilema.  I installed a SPDT relay to power my fog lights whenever the car is running (daytime running lights - DRLs).  That works great.  However, when I turn the car off, the fog lights remain on for about 30 seconds and then shut off.  The problem is, if I open the car door to leave during that 30 second period, the "headlights on" chime sounds.  This rather negates the usefulness of the chime in that , if I actually left the headlights on by mistake, the chime would sound but I might assume it is just the DRLs and ...flat battery.  My question is, why doesn't the circuit  open as soon as the ignition is turned off?
crt777 
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I forgot to mention.  This is in a 2009 Honda Fit..
howie ll 
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Diode across the coil terminals or the switched coil feed?
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Where did you connect the coil of the relay to?  Is the voltage on the coil dropping out as soon as your turn the key off?

It sounds, to me, like maybe you connected to a RAP wire instead of a true ignition wire.

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Posted: September 19, 2009 at 5:19 PM / IP Logged  

Thanks for the replies.  Howie ...would you expand on that a little, please

K Pierson...I have been wondering that myself.  I'm not familiar with a RAP wire, can you explain.  We DIYers think we know everything but obviously, we don't.  I believe the wire that I tapped for the coil is the oil pressure circuit.  I'll have to do a little mor research on that.

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OK, the diodes isolate your circuit and prevent coil on-rush back EMF.

Try finding a proper ignition wire that shuts down on turning off the ignition OR if there's a second ignition wire at the ignition switch that gives you 12v+ on ignition but dumps when you turn the key to the starter.

RAP = Retained acc power, I'm not even going there until you tell us what vehicle this is. Wiring pathway should be 12v+IGN 2 to 86, ground to 85, 12v+ constant at 15amps fused to 30 and 87 to foglamps. You shouldn't need any diodes that way because the relay isolates your feed from the regular fog light circuitry. N.B. An oil pressure feed isn't at a constant voltage, it's going to go from ground to about 3volts ref. Although KP might correct me on that. It certainly won't be 12volts, also on a modern vehicle you might upset the diagnostics/engine management tapping in at that point.


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