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eddi38 
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Hi im new here so bear with me here goes my prob,- i have a 12 vdc radio remote switch with a relay inside that only activates when i hold down the keyfob switch when i release keyfob switch it deactivates.This is not what i want, i want the 12vdc output of the remote switch to switch a relay on when i press keyfob and release keyfob it stays on ,then i press keyfob and release- it pulses again and turns the relay off. This is to be used to switch a 100W outside light on as i approach my house in the dark,then when im at front door i can turn it off again via keyfob. Can anyone help me with a relay circuit that will do what i ask? The output of the remote switch is momentary 12vdc it only outputs while button is held down. The relay needs to switch 5A ~240v.
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It may be easier to put the light on a delay timer.  Say, a 10 minute delay.  Then, once you press the button the light will come on and then stay on for 10 mintues.  If you need it on longer you could just push the button again.

If the module you are using doesn't have latching ability and that is definately what you want, you may need to look in to finding a similiar module with programmable outputs.  Otherwise, you will need some circuity between the output of the module and the relay that controls the light - like a D flip flop set up to toggle. 

Kevin Pierson
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you can use this setup to accomplish what you need

latching relay problem -- posted image.

eddi38 
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just looked at above circuit would green and black represent + and - output from the reciever? Then 12v red and blue be replaced by 240v a/c in and out,typically using 4 identical 8A 240va/c switching relays?
eddi38 
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Ok my bad dont reply with abuse my error what i just said is wrong that would mean 24va/c going across a 12vdc coil,my bad:),this is used to power the main relay which switches the 240va/c ,i think please reply to confirm. Ive not used relays like this b4.
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The 12vdc output would drive your relay that controls the light.  So, in addition to the relays above, you would need a relay(s) with a 12vdc coil and contacts rated to at least 240vac and 5A.

In all the years I have been on this forum I have never seen anyone post that they got this relay configuration to work, so if you use it and it works be sure to post back. 

Kevin Pierson
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could anyone here draw this as a circuit diagram showing coil contacts and switching contacts having to refer to a little drawing of a relay then looking at this wiring picture is hard ,anyone game?
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latching relay problem -- posted image.
John DeRosa (Hotwaterwizard)
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eddi38 
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Thnx for giving it a go but you have missed out a relay and 2 diodes i just looked it over and it wont work, i said it is a 12vdc pulse coming out of reciever and i want to switch 240v a/c this will not work i need this circuit to work switching a 12v dc coil which then switches a 240va/c load.please try again for me .
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latching relay problem -- posted image.
John DeRosa (Hotwaterwizard)
Stockton California
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