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68stang 
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Posted: July 03, 2002 at 2:55 PM / IP Logged  

Does anyone have any thoughts on the use of a 4" mid(separate/component) or a 4X6 plate coax in a factory replacement location in a door?

Also, any suggestions for make/model of a speaker?

Thanks

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Posted: July 03, 2002 at 3:48 PM / IP Logged  

If you want to keep it original, then go for the replacement sized speakers. If not, I would suggest modifying the stock location to house a larger speaker . 4 " won't give you very good sound by itself, but if you couple it with a 6 1/2 " them it will be very good. I would go for the 4" component set over the 4 x 6 if those were my only two choices for the reason that the tweeter can be angled for better imaging.

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68stang 
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Posted: July 03, 2002 at 5:11 PM / IP Logged  

The original speaker size was 4x8, not 4 or 4x6 or something standard.  I can't find anything that measures 4x8, but I know I can use 4x6, or 2 4" speakers side by side.  I only have a bit over 4 inches of clearance top to bottom of the mount, but I have just over 8 inches of clearance front to back.

Tweeters were certainly never used back in 68, but I might be able to find a place in the door for one.  I will not surface mount a tweeter anywhere, but flush mounting is an option.

Let's say I can't find a place to use a tweeter.  I already have a pair of quality mid-high custom speakers in the dash, so do you think a 4x6 plate with separates, or just the 4" mid from a component?

ADAM

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Posted: July 03, 2002 at 5:37 PM / IP Logged  
4x8s suck, to be honest. a 4x6 plate will fit the hole just fine.. it just leaves a gap at each of the longer ends.. which is no biggie behind a grille
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68stang 
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Posted: July 03, 2002 at 5:57 PM / IP Logged  

I have yet to cut the holes, so if a 4x6 is what you suggest, that's no problem...I will cut the hole just right.  Now, after that's done, does the damping go against the inner side of the outermost piece of sheet metal of the door?  where else does it go? 

ADAM

GlassWolf 
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Posted: July 04, 2002 at 10:17 AM / IP Logged  
if the factory hole is 4x8, a 4x6 needs no cutting.. just need to put in new screw-holes to hold it to the metal and you're good to go. very minor mod work there almost pure stock.
As for damping material usually people put it on the outside, between the door and the door-panel, and on teh floor boards under the carpeting, and on the roof between roof and head liner material.
etc etc..
-GlassWolf
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jeffchilcott 
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Posted: July 04, 2002 at 11:14 AM / IP Logged  
If you were willing to do a little cutting then why dont you just go with a 5x7....and I understand with your not wanting to surface mount a tweeter.....heck I dont know if I would even want to flush mount it...I have a 1970 Buick GSX and the only reason I went and did all kinds of mod to the doors ect...was because it was a $1300 car to start.....I will just tell you     if you plan to use subs at any point      be sure to insulate everything so well you can hear a mouse fart in the car.....I ended up sealing the whole trunk with dynamat then using more cans of spray then I could count.....also filling in major gaps like under the rear windows     with foam......well    good luck
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