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Savanna 
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Posted: November 03, 2003 at 1:35 PM / IP Logged  

I bought a 95 Chrysler Cirrus, V6, automatic. It had 117,000 miles on it. The Transmission had been replaced and the air conditioner repaired before I bought it. I changed the oil about two weeks ago.

I have never had  a problem with this car until last weekend when I was out taking fall pictures. I was parked on top of a hill taking pictures when the car quit. I turned off the ignition, then restarted it. I traveled another 7 or 8 miles then pulled off the road. I noticed a weird chemical SMELL coming from the car so I shut it off. A few minutes later I tried to restart it. It wouldn't restart. It tried, but it wouldn't fire.

I had it towed to a garage and they hooked it up to a computer, but it showed nothing wrong. The mechanic thought it was a sensor, but it wasn't. Now he is guessing that it is a Pick-up Coil, or the Computer itself. We are talking big bucks here! Does anyone have any ideas on what might be wrong?

hotrodelectric 
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Posted: November 06, 2003 at 10:35 PM / IP Logged  
OK. First off, I'm absolutely loathe to blame to computer first. They generally tend to be reliable now more than ever. Yeah, it could be- I did have to replace the 'computer' (more of a control module) on my Peugeot
505 Wagon recently, but that was after thoroughly checking everything else on a car that has the thick end of 250k miles on it. If the computer is bad, it's likely because of the original problem, not the other way round. The pick-up coil is a possibility. An overheating condition which is given away by your chemical smell and smoke should be fairly easy to track down simply by careful observation- you should see a smoke trail from the suspect, and probably some heat damage (melting or warping of any attached plastic)as well. You may even encounter some burned wiring if the damage is severe enough. Matter of fact, I would check this first before I go delving into the control electronics. You mention the tranny was replaced- make sure things were reassembled correctly. Your problem could be a screw or clamp that wore through and grounded a 'hot' wire. That more than a bad computer would explain the acrid smell and the smoke. Last but not least- if you don't trust your mechanic, pay him for his time and take the car elsewhere. Too many guys are trained in parts replacement rather than repair because todays' cars are designed for fast replacement, not repair. Unfortunately, that can get really expensive really fast.
Dauber 
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Posted: November 23, 2003 at 9:15 PM / IP Logged  
The cars built these days aren't like the old ones, not a simple one two three fix, too much electronics, out with the old in with the new I guess.
Kyle@Audio Obsession Sound
zacdavis 
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Joined: November 14, 2003
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Posted: November 28, 2003 at 2:07 AM / IP Logged  

 First check to see if you have "spark" by taking out a spark plug w/the wire connected, be sure it is lying on a ground, turn over the engine and simply see if it sparks. If you do have spark then the next step would be to check for fuel pressure. There is a fuel rail on the top of the motor, locate a valve stem on it, unscrew the cap and depress it, if sprays then we've got good fuel delivery and thats about as far as i could help you with out being there or having more input. Oh, also listen with a stethascope at a fuel injector, if it's working you will hear a loud clicking while turning over the engine. Inspect your oil at the dipstick, look closely for metallic fragments,(hope there isn't any).

 btw, is it a 2.7?, i hope not, those motors have serious problems.  The main deal is that the oil galleries are to small, this causes poor circulation, in turn the oil gets overheated, causing sludge.  Finally causing failure with the motor(usually spun bearings). It is such a large problem there is a law suit against Chrysler. I came up with a qiuck way to resolve this, drill a hole in the lower side of either valve cover, then one at the top of the oil pan, connect the two with proper hose and fittings. As the motor builds oil pressure in the valve train the excess oil can "overflow" down to the crank case, thus, solving this problem. Changing the oil at least every 400 miles helps as well, ya.., 400.  


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