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silentblackhat 
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Posted: May 22, 2006 at 4:19 AM / IP Logged  
I have been ready for a while to take the MECP Basic Installer test.  I found a testing site that is close to me(the Testing Center at Johnson County Community College in Overland Park, Kansas).  I am wondering is this test done on paper? or is it done on computer?  I am thinking it is done on computer since the test scheduling says "atleast 24 hours in advance of test time".  Also if it is done in computer, when you are done does it tell you if you passed it or not? I am not worried at all that I wont pass it, I am just wondering about if it will tell you that you passed or do you have to wait for the certificate to come in the mail?
killer sonata 
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I dont understand why they even have the gay test. Being able to do it on paper and do it in actual installs are 2 different things. There are way too many book smart MECP certified installers who cant do an install to save their lives. But they have the piece of paper so ofcourse they will get hired over someone with pure experience.
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Posted: May 22, 2006 at 6:34 AM / IP Logged  

You take the test on computer, and they tell you your results before you leave along w/ a little certificate.

Having the MECP is similar to a GED...sure lots of people can read an write, but the GED is that little peice of paper that say you can.I see what your saying Killer Sonata, but to add to that getting certified is a great add on the a experienced installer.

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killer sonata 
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Oh I agree that in the eyes of the people hiring installers it does look good, but it doesnt necessarily mean you can actually do the job. Im not saying that you shouldnt do it, im just  saying that I personally think it gets too much credit than it deserves. Thats just my own opinion.
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Posted: May 22, 2006 at 10:59 AM / IP Logged  
lol i agree also...i know its a gay/easy test that doesnt mean anything(i know plenty of ppl that are 'certified' but doesnt know anything about how to install that stuff.  I guarantee that i know how to install stuff correctly, iv been doing it for a long time.  thanks for the information though,
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Posted: May 22, 2006 at 11:10 AM / IP Logged  
I also noticed that there is a LOT of mistakes in the book.  i know its not a How To book because i was just using it for reference b4 i take the test but they even had many mistakes on how to reada VOM...kinda sad when a certification book has that type of mistakes in it
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Posted: May 23, 2006 at 8:37 AM / IP Logged  
Most of the battle, (in my opinion) isn't in the area of the automotive electronics. It's dissassembling the car "properly" without breaking sh*t or having left over parts or scratching dash parts. If you know how to use a DMM, and have knowledge.....your in. MECP training and certification does NOT teach you how to "work" on the car. The electronics have NOT changed that much in the past 20 years....I know, I know.....YES they have, but theses changes don't effect the majority of the vehicles on the road, and once learned....your in. The MECP program is NOT perfect...but its all we have as a "standard" Im sorry.....jeeze this is an old topic.
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I don't hold the MECP in high regards at all. Like I've said in the past, if there are 2 installers going for a job and one has the MECP certification and is a green horn ( who graded over 90 % ) over someone who has 2 or 3 years experience ( learned things properly ) I would choose the non certified person. Why ? because that person will already have a grasp on the real world practice and actually have field experience. That means alot more to me that someone with a MECP certificate that I have to train on how to remove the panel of a 1993 Toyota 4Runner.
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I am certified. It is something nice looking to hang on the wall in a frame. I would hire someone with experience over a piece of paper any day. My x-business partner hired a "certified installer" about 3 years ago he cost the business a fortune in damages to vehicles resulting in his termination. It takes a certain person that has a mechanical ability to be able to dis-assemble vehicles do a quality install and re-assemble it properly. If they don't posses that ability they don't have a job with me.
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Posted: May 23, 2006 at 10:42 AM / IP Logged  
i totally agree on that.  Im experienced in taking off door pannels and everything else. iv been doing it for a few years.  im just getting the certification since it looks better to the manager at the shop im applying to
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