the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
icon

FG sound worse?


Post ReplyPost New Topic
< Prev Topic Next Topic >
diabolicaldon 
Member - Posts: 14
Member spacespace
Joined: July 31, 2004
Location: United States
Posted: August 15, 2004 at 10:53 PM / IP Logged  
I have a 2000 camaro and two 12" kicker CVRs. Right now, because of the small cargo space, i'm being forced to use a crappy prefab box made for a camaro. The last couple of competitions i've been to, i've mentioned to a few poeple that i'm probably going to build a fiberglass box, because this is the only way i'll get enough airspace to go ported instead of sealed. For some reason, everyone i talked to said not to do it because FG sounds like crap. I was suprised to hear this, but i figured i'd ask because i've never actually heard a FG box in action. I just figured if i built it right, it should sound fine. Any comments?
xtreamcc 
Silver - Posts: 467
Silver spacespace
Joined: March 24, 2004
Location: United States
Posted: August 15, 2004 at 11:04 PM / IP Logged  
FG sound like crap? Who the hell told u that? If anything FG sounds better than MDF when properly built. Now granted a poorly build FG box that is flexing heavily will cause MAD distortion and will sound like ass, a properly build box that is strong enough to handle the pressure of the subs will produce no distortion because there will be NO flexing. Flexing = Distortion if you catch my drift. Who ever said that FG in general sounds like crap has been smoking crack or works for the company that makes those sh*tty bandpass boxes and needs customers.
"Shiny chrome when used in conjunction with bikini models is particularly effective in inducing brain deficit disorder"
02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Monster System on its way.
vdubmk4 
Copper - Posts: 175
Copper spacespace
Joined: August 04, 2004
Location: United States
Posted: August 15, 2004 at 11:44 PM / IP Logged  
No shiat. If FG jobs sound soo horrible then i highly doubt that allllll of those custom jobs and project cars with all the sweet FG jobs would be built, think about it.
Fortune: You will continue to take chances, and be glad you did.
HottAccord 
Silver - Posts: 247
Silver spacespace
Joined: August 12, 2004
Location: United States
Posted: August 16, 2004 at 9:41 AM / IP Logged  
I agree with the last 2 replies here, if done correctly, fiberglass can sound really good.  Abou a year ago, I made a single enclosure for my old Accord, and I only used about 3-4 layers of 1-1/2 oz fiberglass and it sounded real good.  If I would have put a little more effort into it, being that it was my first attempt, it probably could have sounded even better!
diabolicaldon 
Member - Posts: 14
Member spacespace
Joined: July 31, 2004
Location: United States
Posted: August 16, 2004 at 12:04 PM / IP Logged  

This is what i figured, but thought i'd ask just to be sure. I just thought it was weird that every person at the comp i talked to said don't do it. Then again, these are the same people that i crushed with the crappy sealed prefab box i have now. I've been doing my homework for the last few months now, and hopefully will be able to tackle the job soon. Just waiting for the time and money. I was inspired by this guy, and it just so happens that he lives and builds these in my area, but he quoted me $400 to do mine, for the two 12"s. So, i figured that i'm a pretty handy guy, and i'd save money and do it myself.

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/108770/2

CarAudioHelp 
Copper - Posts: 198
Copper spacespace
Joined: July 18, 2003
Location: United States
Posted: August 16, 2004 at 3:46 PM / IP Logged  
People like to run their mouth and act like they know what they're talking about. Competitions are especially prone to this since there's a lot of ego on the line. Everyone wants to be the guru. I've heard some of the dumbest and craziest things at competitions. Things like "My amps is running a .01 ohm load. We measured it." or (same guy) "My 6.5's are crossed over to play 30Hz and below." And he wants to open up a shop. Lord help his customers. Anyway, as others have already pointed out, fiberglass sounds just fine. It sounds terrible if you make a terrible box, but that applies to wood enclosures too.
xtreamcc 
Silver - Posts: 467
Silver spacespace
Joined: March 24, 2004
Location: United States
Posted: August 16, 2004 at 4:41 PM / IP Logged  
"My 6.5's are crossed over to play 30Hz and below."
muhahahaha, thats probably the funniest thing I've ever heard!
"Shiny chrome when used in conjunction with bikini models is particularly effective in inducing brain deficit disorder"
02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Monster System on its way.
CarAudioHelp 
Copper - Posts: 198
Copper spacespace
Joined: July 18, 2003
Location: United States
Posted: August 16, 2004 at 4:45 PM / IP Logged  
He was dead serious too. I even asked him several times if he meant they had a 30Hz subsonic filter. Nope, they're playing 30Hz and below. I also tried to explain how his (2) four ohm subwoofers could in no way be wired to give a .01 ohm load. He said he measured it and you couldn't tell him any different. I had to walk away when I felt an aneurysm coming on.
vdubmk4 
Copper - Posts: 175
Copper spacespace
Joined: August 04, 2004
Location: United States
Posted: August 16, 2004 at 11:41 PM / IP Logged  

What would constitute a sh*tty FG enclousure ? Do yall just mean like the fiberglassing job its self is sh*tty or like the shape ? How much does shape effect a sealed box ?

Fortune: You will continue to take chances, and be glad you did.
xtreamcc 
Silver - Posts: 467
Silver spacespace
Joined: March 24, 2004
Location: United States
Posted: August 17, 2004 at 12:38 AM / IP Logged  
shape shouldn't effect the sound in a sealed. In a ported the location of the port can cause sound changes 'I THINK' dont quote me on that as thats just an assumption (dont event go saying 'you know what happens when u assume') I'm making based on my knowledge of ported boxes which I dont usually deal with so yes, I'm speaking out my ass (ok, so I read something about it somewhere that the sound comes from the port at the tuning frequency).
Anyway, a sh*tty fiberglass box would be like my first one. It was for 2 12" kicker C03 12's, I made it 4 layers thick and though it was the sh*t. Needless to say when I hooked up my amp and started bump'n the box was flexing almost as much as the subs were excurding, MADDDDD distortion. I was so baffled by this (I was an idiot with fiberglass then) that I let it play while I tryed to figure out what was wrong. Needless to say the box had cracked in 5 places and the side was actually being held together by a few strands of fiberglass by the time I turned it off. Anyway, THAT is a sh*tty fiberglass box. The box that held my 2 RFR3110's was about 15 layers thick and u could park a tank on it. That was a good box. Haha, 6.5's hitt'n 30hz! HAHAHAHAHAHA I cant get over that
"Shiny chrome when used in conjunction with bikini models is particularly effective in inducing brain deficit disorder"
02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Monster System on its way.
Page of 2

  Printable version Printable version Post ReplyPost New Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

  •  
Search the12volt.com
Follow the12volt.com Follow the12volt.com on Facebook
Saturday, April 27, 2024 • Copyright © 1999-2024 the12volt.com, All Rights Reserved Privacy Policy & Use of Cookies
Disclaimer: *All information on this site ( the12volt.com ) is provided "as is" without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to fitness for a particular use. Any user assumes the entire risk as to the accuracy and use of this information. Please verify all wire colors and diagrams before applying any information.

Secured by Sectigo
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
Support the12volt.com
Top
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer