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placid warrior 
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Posted: December 22, 2004 at 9:25 PM / IP Logged  
i know its superior to bondo for ease of sanding and all that, but i'm wondering if it would be allright to use on the car body in place of bondo.  I've never heard of it before, but i'm wondering what wound be better than bondo...there has to be something.  will rage gold hold up to the abuse that bodo would?  On overhauling u see that they use a greenish bondo on the car after they blast/sand to bare metal...what is it that they use?  I just picked up a project car, its in pretty good shape, but it will be gutted/stripped and everything, it'll be a lowrider, hoping for the best quality look possible and strength as well...rusted areas will be cut and new pieces welded so its not going to be anything major, but it needs to adhere well to the metal and be strong enough to not just crumble or crack if it gets wacked.  any one got any suggestions on something better than bondo?
Carbonb 
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Posted: December 22, 2004 at 9:41 PM / IP Logged  
Well when you apply bondo or anything else to a body it's not like you have large chunks of bondo over a hole.
All the holes are filled with metal, the only thing the bondo does is assist in giving it a smooth look. You should sand basically all the bondo off of the piece.
After this, there will be nothing left to crack.
placid warrior 
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Posted: December 22, 2004 at 10:53 PM / IP Logged  
i realize that i realize that u dont use bondo to cover a hole, i did my car and i didnt bother cutting and welding new pieces on..one corner was bashed in and i had done the best i could to pound it out, so i ended up using about 1/4" thick layer of bondo over a 4" square (roughly since it wasnt square but on the corner of the rear fender) and it worked out fine, even though its not the right way to do it i dont think i'll have problems with it...u can make a batch of bondo and let it harden and u will have a heck of a time breaking it, i want that kind of strength even if its not totally necessary.  the new project car wont require much bodo at all but i still want something easy to work with.  Bondo also seeps thru the primer and paint if its got too much hardener and all that, but i like to use extra hardener for a faster cure...results are the same otherwise, but i was just hoping that rage gold would be suitable for something like this and not have the same effects as bondo.  Maybe i should just pick up some rage gold and test it.
Carbonb 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 12:37 AM / IP Logged  
It's the same thing as bondo, just as durable just has different qualities more appealing to fiberglassers, since sanding a car is a whole lot easier then getting in some areas on a sub enclosure.
realitycheck 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 9:09 AM / IP Logged  
Also you can try duraglas, this stuff has some fiberglass powder in it and it is super super super strong, compared to bondo.  When this stuff its extremely hard to break and yes it sands down just as smooth, it just a little tougher to sand but shouldnt be a problem on a car.
Learning the trade one fiberglass creation at a time!
placid warrior 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 11:48 AM / IP Logged  
allright, thanks guys.  I'll check out duraglass then since rage gold is pretty much the same as bondo.
branvw 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 1:04 PM / IP Logged  
i have always used bondo until last weekend i ordered a can of rage from the local body shop.  I must admit i am never going back to bondo, rage is very easy to work with, i found it smoother and very easy to sand.
branvw 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 1:05 PM / IP Logged  
i have always used bondo until last weekend i ordered a can of rage from the local body shop.  I must admit i am never going back to bondo, rage is very easy to work with, i found it smoother and very easy to sand.
placid warrior 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 1:20 PM / IP Logged  

smoother is better.  maybe I'll use duraglass on the slightly thicker areas and use duraglass for the final smoothing coat.  i have body seams to fill in but i'm going to fill them in with plumbers solder (more lead) cause it'll probly flex a bit in those areas and the possibility of the bondo or duraglass or whatever popping out is a possibility. 

Branvw:  did u get any pin holes in the duraglass?  i know that with the bondo i had small pin holes...i just got a hold of this website a little while ago so if anyone is interested its pretty good reading.

http://www.roadsters.com/filler

branvw 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 4:36 PM / IP Logged  

no, in the bondo i have to use a fine finishing putty or glaze but i did find that i used almost none with the rage! also i found making polycreate with rage is easy to spread and fill in any low areas


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