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Posted: December 29, 2007 at 9:15 AM / IP Logged  

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I really need to ditch these flaccid, high-impedence CDT 12's I'm running now and drop in something that can standup to my front stage.  Now that I'm finally on winter break with xmas in the rearview, I can get some R&R with a table saw and some MDF! loudest/warmest sound in an impreza? -- posted image. 

What is the loudest (preferably JL) thing I can stuff into the back of an Impreza sedan and wire to a JL 1800?

I'm thinking my trunk is good for a maximum of about 2.5 ~ 3cft net internal.  More than that will not actually go into the restrictive trunk opening, even if the volume would technically fit.

So I have 5.25's all around in the cabin - I can get about 125hz out of them while retaining any respectable output.  Hence my reservations about grabbing a pair of 4-ohm 12w3's and being done with it - 12's are leaving me with less than zero mid-bass and I'm really trying for something a bit warmer. 

How about underseat 8w3's?  Three 8w3's in the trunk? 

Could I do something overly complex like underseat mid-woofers and a low-ported 12, 13, or 15 and a passive xover - I could grab a pair of A/B channels to run this mid-woofer range if need-be but I'm not entirely shure of a clean way to grab that particular signal sweep.. (uh- heamph)? 

Not overly concerned about cost here, but I cannot change my HU, amps, or cabin speakers.

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Posted: December 29, 2007 at 10:26 AM / IP Logged  

How about this sub: http://www.diycable.com/main/product_info.php?cPath=24_93&products_id=653

It uses an Xbl^2 motor so inductance will be lower providing a better high frequency extention.  It also means much lower distortion giving you clean, accurate bass.

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Posted: December 29, 2007 at 10:33 AM / IP Logged  
+1 on the Shiva-X recommendation (I have a pair and love them.)  It uses the same motor as the old Adire Brahma with DVC 8-ohm coils.
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Posted: December 29, 2007 at 11:25 AM / IP Logged  

Hmm.

Given my aforementioned space considerations contrasted with the listed application notes at Steven's link, would these really be appropriate?  Even in a heavily stuffed box, I'd have slightly <1.5 cft per woofer... I'm concerned they'd sound a bit choked.

In a sealed box, these look about like anything else modeled in WinISD, so I'm really looking for musicality and tonality here.  The application notes do stress these strengths..

I really wanna switch gears from my usual goals/methods for an install (dead flat curve from a ported box). 

I'm so sick of this flat sort of subterranean sound I have now I can't even tell ya'll.

I guess what I'm saying is that I really wanna try something besides *more* 12's.  I've always had 12's. 

Ya'll really think I shouldn't?

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Posted: December 29, 2007 at 8:21 PM / IP Logged  

What about doing a single 12 ported?  1.5 cubic feet for a ported enclosure is pretty small for any speaker.

You can definitely get a smaller coned driver, but you may give up some low frequency extention. 


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