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trocker767 
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Posted: March 02, 2008 at 10:48 PM / IP Logged  
Ok here's the deal, I'm going to be putting a sub in my 04 Dodge Neon.But I'm leaving the stock radio in it because of it's 6-disc changer.
The amp I'm using is an Alpine MRD-M300 with Speaker Level Inputs.
I've been reading up about adding a sub and amp to a stock radio,and my question is what would be a better, using the speaker level inputs on the amp, or get a Line Out Converter and use RCA's instead?
I know doing either of the two will be no where near as good as using an aftermarket deck, but right now I don't really have the option of a new deck so this is all i can do.
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Posted: March 02, 2008 at 11:21 PM / IP Logged  
I'd say to use a LOC and wire it up behind the radio. I'm not sure about you SQ issue, but when you DO deside to change out the factory head unti you'll have some sub rca's already there
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Posted: March 03, 2008 at 10:21 PM / IP Logged  

I agree with the above but if you are happy with the existing deck and changer, you may not be changing over to an aftermarket deck while you own the car.  I would put some faith in the Alpine's built-in LOC in this case, because Alpine is a quality manufacturer.  Run test wires to see if it all works together first.  The speaker wires don't have to be permanently installed for a test run.  If it does work, that is, if the Alpine's LOC accepts the deck's voltage and everything works, then go with the built-in LOC.  This is the lowest cost solution and the Alpine's LOC may be as good as or better than most common fixed-voltage LOC's you would pick up at the store.

You will probably want to run the speaker wires to the front speaker locations (or wires) instead of the rears so that the deck fading control doesn't diminish the sub output along with the rears.  But running long lengths of regular speaker wire through the car that connect to the amp input is an invitation for noise pickup, so instead of using regular speaker wire use the twisted pair variety.  You can buy it or make it yourself.  Pos and neg wires are twisted snugly around each other for the entire run.  The wire will still pick up noise but the twisting will effectively cancel it out.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
trocker767 
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Posted: March 04, 2008 at 12:58 AM / IP Logged  
Yeah, that sounds good about using the built in LOC.
But the thing is, is the car isnt actually mine, its my parents and they'd rather me not be f'in with anythin like running wire all along the car from the front speakers.
I mean how bad would it be if I just tapped into the two rear speakers for the sub, would it be that noticeable? I usually leave the fade and balance controls alone anyways.
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Posted: March 04, 2008 at 8:55 AM / IP Logged  

trocker, your car or not...when you install wiring for a system you run the wires hidden.  Same goes if you are tapping the rear speakers: hide the wiring.

If you don't adjust overall soundstage balance by using the fader then it doesn't matter whether you use the front pair or the rear pair.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.

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