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medpizza 
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Hi, so I just bought myself i new subwoofer clarion 1251 ( http://www.clarion.com/ca/fr/products/2009/audio/subwoofers/PXW1251/ca-fr-product-pf_1172413277164.html) and a new amp apx1300 ( http://www.clarion.com/us/en/products/2006/audio/amplifiers/APX1300/us-en-product-pf_1134643389055.html). And i dont know how to wire them to get as much power as I can. Anyone can teach me how to do that plz. Thank you!
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That amplifier is only stable down to 2 ohms. You will need to wire the subwoofer in series in order to make a 4 ohm load for that amp.
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How? I plug together both positive and both negative of the coils? thank for the answer

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and should I go with a bigger amp or that one is enought?
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Parallel = jumper from + to + and another from - to -.  Series = jumper from one coil's (or Woofer's) + to the other coil's (or Woofer's) -.  Then with the 2 other terminals ran to your amp.

First diagram is parallel.  Second diagram is Series.  I did not look at your speakers, I have no idea if they are single or dual voice coil.  Following is only and example to show difference between series and parallel.

Option 1 (parallel) = 1 ohm load
Voice coils wired in parallel
Recommended Amplifier: Stable at 1 ohm mono
wire clarion amp and subwoofer? -- posted image.
 
Option 2 (series) = 4 ohm load
Voice coils wired in series
Recommended Amplifier: Stable at 4, 2, or 1 ohm mono
wire clarion amp and subwoofer? -- posted image.

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The amp you have will be slightly under powering that speaker. With that being said the amp you have should be fine as you wouldent notice much of a difference if you got a bigger amp. That speaker is rated for 500 RMS and it will be seeing 300 RMS. The subwoofer is dual 2 ohm coils. So the wiring options you have are either 1 ohm or 4 ohms. You have to run your speaker at a 4 ohm load because your amp is not stable at a 1 ohm load. Follow the diagram option 2 that i am an idiot has posted. Then measure the resistance with a dmm to make sure you wired it correctly. If wired correctly you should get a reading close to 4 ohms.
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My speaker can hold 500rms in 1 ohm and in 4 ohm?

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According to the Specs you posted, the amp will produce 300 watts into a 4 ohm load. It will produce 400 watts into a 2 ohm load. Your only choice is 4 ohms. It will put out 300 watts. So as stated earlier, I too think that the 500 watt woofer will be slightly underpowered.
EDIT: I wrote this after only reading the part of Ragsports saying it was underpowered. Then I went back and read his post. So I guess the So as stated earlier should have been at the very beginning of my post. Sorry
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Isn't it a difference between 500rms at 4ohm and 500rms at 1ohm? Are you sure my sub can handle 500rms at 4ohm? (Maybe ill buy another amp)
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Your speaker can handle 250 watts per voice coil. It has no Idea how you wire it up. You do not need to buy a new amp, at least play it and see if it does what you want it to do. It is not a crime to underpower a speaker. It may be a Sin, but not a crime.
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