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blackcivichatch 
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Haven't been on here in forever.. I recently came across an old school Cerwin Vega 15. I was lookin around online For some box ideas. I Came across PWK Designs website at their boxes look Amazing.
Anyways... Most of the boxes ive built have been tuned to the resonate freq. of the sub or of my car... But This time I Wanna experiment with super low Freq. Even gettin into some sub sonics.
Any ideas or advice would be Amazing. Thanks
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Well, if you are planning on using the CV, forget "super low bass". They don't do it - they are SPL woofers, NOT extension woofers. BEST case scenario? I'd say 35Hz, and that's in a box bigger than your car, and hardly "super low".
You need a woofer designed for low frequency reproduction. You will generally lose output, but that's the trade, man...
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Ah Man. Thats not wut I wanted to hear. lol.. Ok well Lets say that the Sub is Only temporary. What Style Of Box Should i Bee looking into Making? As Far as the size goes, All i need is one of the back seats. Haha. I mean, Obviously the box is going to be ported, But Wut style would be best (Slot vent, round ports, Horn maybe?)
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You can't build an "only temporary" sub system. If you buy another sub later, you're building another system later. Just sayin'... Different woofer in same box = crapshoot response, usually for the worse.
However, I have noticed that vented indeed, will give you the deepest response, at the expense of enclosure complexity and "lack of forgiveness". What I mean by that is that all of your dimensions have to be perfect - even a small slip can cause MAJOR havoc in the overall response of your finished product.
As far as slot vs. round? No difference. A horn will absolutely not be practical for "deep" (even 35Hz) with your CV woofer, so forget that idea... ;P
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
blackcivichatch 
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Haha. Ok ok. Well Keeping in mind that Price IS a concern, What Woofer Would you recomend?
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blackcivichatch wrote:
Haha. Ok ok. Well Keeping in mind that Price IS a concern, What Woofer Would you recomend?

The Dayton Titanic and Dayton DVCs are suitable for tuning really low.  If you want something cheap, then try the ACI SV10 for ~$60 from madisound.com.  If you can afford to open the wallet a little more, the Shiva-X is an option although I'd probably run that sealed and there is the Soundsplinter RL-p.  Basically you want to look for subs with a low Qts (lower than ~.4, the lower the better) and low FS so you can tune ~sub's FS. 

You talking to me???
P9 Combo
ID CD1-Pros
Focal Utopia Midbass
10" Brahma
Clarion APX amps
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less than $100... Thats what i like to see. Haha. Yall Are Amazing. Gotta love the 12 volt i want super low bass -- posted image.
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blackcivichatch wrote:
less than $100... Thats what i like to see. Haha. Yall Are Amazing. Gotta love the 12 volt i want super low bass -- posted image.

A good woofer for less than $100 is really difficult to find, but some people get decent results with these:  Dayton 12" subwoofer

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Im lovin all these woofers with all the money goin into performance instead of a shiny chrome basket. Haha. So the only numbers I need to be too concerned about is the Qts and Fs?
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