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delmike 
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Posted: October 24, 2010 at 6:50 PM / IP Logged  
Hey there,
Here is my interogation: I have a Chevy Blazer 2000 with the Delco/Bose Premium sound system (6 speakers with the amp under the center console with an aftermarket headunit). The system sounds AWESOME
My question is: can I take the system from this car and install it into another car??? If I can, I have another question. Is there a place I can buy a kind of Wiring Harness for this system, or I do have to remove all the wiring from the original car??
Thx
Mike
mrm1776 
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Posted: October 24, 2010 at 10:48 PM / IP Logged  

Is it possible? Yes.

But my simple question is why? While the Bose system has a decent sound, I wouldn't consider it awesome and I doubt many of the other people on here would describe it as awesome either. For the work that it would take to get that Bose system into a new vehicle you could have a much better system put in for not that much money. If you shop at the right places or if you know people that have stuff for sale, and you're planning on doing the work yourself you can get yourself a nice little system.

The speakers in that system are PAPER cones. They're not built to handle much abuse. Aftermarket speakers (even the cheaper ones) are made with better materials and have a higher RMS rating. Plus, those Bose amps are known for having problems and once it goes out then you're back to square one.

My advice is to ditch the Bose, put a little money into it, and be much happier in the long run.

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delmike 
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Posted: October 25, 2010 at 7:34 PM / IP Logged  
Why would I pay for a sound system that I already own wich is installed in a car that i'm selling in parts???
This sound system is very good for me. I didn't ask if you like or not the sound of the system, I'm only asking if it's possible to transfer it easily.(wich mean that if I have to remove all the wires, i'll forget about it).
By the way, I know a lot about speakers, being a sound engineers since 14 years. If paper cones are that bad, why 90% of Pro Audio (PA) speakers are paper cones?? And for the RMS rating, I'm installing a sound system for myself, not for the guys in the house 1 mile away from my car.
I know I can have more from aftermaket products. Here is the system I'll install if I can't transfer easily my bose system:
Pioneer AVIC-X920BT
Polk Audio PA500.4
Polk Audio MM6501 for the fronts
Polk Audio MM691 6x9 for the rears
For the Sub, I have an old MTX Thunder 10" paired with a little Rockford Fosgate 201S or an old Kenwood KAC-729S. Later, I'm planning to replace the sub and its amp by either a Polk audio combo (Sr serie Sub and PA600.1 Amp) or a Rockford combo (Punch series Sub and Amp)
Thx
Mike
mrm1776 
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Posted: October 26, 2010 at 11:11 AM / IP Logged  

I'm just talking from my experience as an installer, which I'm sure many others can attest to. Paper cones may be fine for PA speakers, but the automobile environment is very different for paper cones. With a vehicle you have to introduce extreme hot and cold temperatures into the equation. PA speakers are generally kept in a climate controlled environment. Yes, I know that they can go through temperature changes as well, but it's a lot less frequent than a vehicle. You also have to consider the enclosures that many PA speakers are in. They are not as susceptible to moisture as door speakers are. I've seen many a Bose speaker in a GM vehicle get eaten away. And I'm not talking about really old vehicles, but rather early 2000 GMs.

If you've already got the Bose system in your mind, then by all means go for it. I was just giving my friendly advice that it would be more trouble than it is worth to make it all work.

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soundnsecurity 
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Posted: October 26, 2010 at 12:29 PM / IP Logged  
delmike wrote:
By the way, I know a lot about speakers, being a sound engineers since 14 years. If paper cones are that bad, why 90% of Pro Audio (PA) speakers are paper cones?? And for the RMS rating, I'm installing a sound system for myself, not for the guys in the house 1 mile away from my car.
trust me, the only thing that your bose system and a PA system share are paper cones. bose speakers are the consistency of construction paper and they are paired with the cheapest foam surround you can imagine that is only good for a few years before it dry rots to nothing.and i would actually be surprised if they are even still intact in your truck.
if you are a sound designer then you know just as well as any of us the difference a little signal processing can make when it comes to the sound of any system. what makes ANY bose system sound as good as it does is the DSP that is built into the receiver. your system stopped being a bose system as soon as you changed your head unit.
im not trying to start anything here, im just eliminating your misconceptions about Bose.
to answer your question, yes it is possible to transplant a bose system. the hardest thing will be getting the wire out unless you can find a wire schematic on the entire bose system that will let you just cut everything out and put it back together with all new wire. if you just go to cut it out you'll never get it back together as wires tend to change colors down the line on top of there being many of the same color wires in the same harness. you will most likely need to extend most of your wires anyway.
the other thing to watch out for is whether or not the speakers will mount into the new vehicle. usually any factory speaker is built to mount in a special way that will vary from car to car so you will be doing some custom rigging on that end too.
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Posted: October 26, 2010 at 11:54 PM / IP Logged  
always the sound engineers, and electricians that ask questions like this....
wouldn't be worth it. but go for it and let us know how it goes. post up pictures too.
good luck.
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mrm1776 
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Posted: October 27, 2010 at 8:22 AM / IP Logged  

zerepdivad wrote:
always the sound engineers, and electricians that ask questions like this....
wouldn't be worth it. but go for it and let us know how it goes. post up pictures too.
good luck.

I swear I get at least one electrical engineer a week coming into my shop and telling me that they'll just do the install themselves because they're an "electrical engineer". I honestly didn't realize there were that many electrical engineers in the world... haha. And wouldn't you know that it's almost ALWAYS those jobs that I'm fixing?

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Posted: October 27, 2010 at 10:28 AM / IP Logged  
well when you go to school for 4, 5, even 6 years to be an electrical engineer you tend to want to think that you know everything and can handle anything. i started college as an electrical engineering major and trust me it aint easy and i didn't last very long. and it's not that they cant handle wiring up a stereo, any idiot can go color to color( yet some still fail?) but people find themselves completely unprepared to deal with some of the crazy quirks that some cars have. it's not their fault it's just ignorance, i just wish they would learn to trust a veteran installers experience over their fancy book learnin sometimes. and notice that we have yet to hear a rebuttal from the OP.

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