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JTMann16 
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Posted: April 20, 2003 at 9:16 PM / IP Logged  
Hey, i want to get XM radio for my grand cherokee. The only problem is, i don't want to replace my stock headunit b/c the controls on the back on the steering wheel and the 10 disk cd-changer in the back will not work w/ a new one. I'm not sure how else i should do it, i know i can get an external xm radio or whatever on my dash that will broadcast an fm signal to my radio, and i know i can get a cassette adapter too, but i want to sacrafice as little quality as possible. does anyone know how good the quality would be for either a cassette adapter or an fm modulator, compared to the full HU swap and all? any suggestions or help would be appreciated, thanks a lot.
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Posted: April 20, 2003 at 9:46 PM / IP Logged  

When properly installed, the quality of an fm modulated XM system is very good.  It's not quite CD quality but certainly better than tape and typical fm radio.  The term fm modulated kinda makes it sound like it's gonna be a radio broadcast kind of thing, but the antenna cables plug directly in to the monitor, so it is still a direct connection--and it certainly sounds like a direct connection.  This also means it is vary rarely susceptible to interference.

Only problem is that to listen to standard fm radio you have to turn the modulator off, but that's as simple as pressing the power button on the xm display.  Once you've done that the fm radio reception will start to function normally again.

For those like yourself that want to keep their factory systems intact, the fm modulator is a great way to go.  with most factory equipment, even the premium systems, the difference in sound quality is minimum at most.

Also remember that for those who are in to the new SkyFi unit from Delpi, the only way to hook it up is to use a modulator or tape adapter.

Just out of curiosity, what year is your vehicle?  Most likely you can upgrade to an aftermarket head unit and keep the use of the steering wheel controls using an adapter like this one, although I am unaware of a way to use the stock cd changer with an aftermarket deck.

JTMann16 
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Posted: April 20, 2003 at 9:57 PM / IP Logged  
thanks for the help, i have a 99 grand cherokee ltd. w/ the Infinity gold upgrade. I considered using that steering wheel adapter, but i still don't think it would be worth losing the 10 disk changer. any other suggestions are appreciated, thanks
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Posted: April 20, 2003 at 10:56 PM / IP Logged  
The Delphi SkyFi unit can be installed by using an 1/8th inch jack on your deck if your deck has the input. I have one installed this way on my deck and it works great. I would recommend the Skyfi unit or the Pioneer 903XM unit. I've installed alot of these at Best Buy and really haven't had too much of a problem.
     I preferred the SkyFi because 1.) It's cheaper, 2.)It's more versatile with the home kits and the boombox, and 3.) It has a bigger display.
    I know it's tough choice because your vehicle has the Infinity system, but check with your closest reputable car audio store to see if there is any kind of option you dig.
     I had an FM modulated Sirius system in my old Blazer, and the quality was very good having never had any interference or engine noise or anything. "Minimum at most" is a very accurate term. Any competant installer and you can figure out a means of installation that you can live with easily.
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Posted: April 21, 2003 at 8:35 PM / IP Logged  

hello,

  I am an installer and I know for most aftermarket decks you may be able to retain your cd changer.  There is a company called periphial and they make excellent components for such.  They are just adapter plugs the are for Alpine/chrysler, Pioneer/ Chrysler, Clarion/Chrysler, etc.  They also make the interface to retain your steering wheel controls.  Check with you local car audio shop and they should be able to get you their information.

If your ears aren't bleeding... it's not loud enough.
esmith69 
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Posted: April 21, 2003 at 8:38 PM / IP Logged  
lol I was thinking the same thing and almost posted that he would be able to keep using the factory cd changer.  but then I realized that those adapters are for hooking up an aftermarket changer to a factory system, and controlling the aftermarket changer using the factory radio's cd changer buttons.
JTMann16 
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Posted: April 22, 2003 at 12:32 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for all your help, i'm a little confused about the adapter that lets you keep your stock cd-changer: do they really make those? or is it just like esmith69 said where it only allows you to add a new cd-changer to your HU, not add a new HU to your stock cd changer (and steering wheel controls)? thanks for your help, i think i might end up going w/ the fm modulator in the end, but i would like to know if i have any other options too. thanks again.
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Posted: April 22, 2003 at 1:06 PM / IP Logged  

They sell cd changers that can be used as direct replacements for factory models, and that need no converter or adapter to connect to a factory system.  Essentially they're just like the OEM part you'd get from a dealer, but instead of being 600 bucks and saying "Jeep" or "mopar" on it, it's only 200 or 300 bucks and will say something else on it.  Works and sounds the same.

Also, using an adapter from PAC, blitzsafe, P.I.E., etc., you can use a factory head unit that has cd changer controls, to directly control an aftermarket cd changer.

You cannot, however, get an adapter that lets you use an aftermarket head unit with a factory cd changer.  The only exception to this was a few months ago I came across a site that talked about how the factory changers in some mid-nineties european cars were made for the manufacturers by companies like alpine and pioneer, and happened to be compatible with certain aftermarket  head units from the same company, because they used the same type of plugs and the same data protocol.  I don't even remember specifically which vehicles they were but I do know for a fact that you can't do that with your jeep changer.

I still think your best bet is to get a head unit and its optional auxilliary input adapter, and use a y cable for a direct hookup from the delphi unit to the head unit.  This way you bypass the modulator altogether.  This is the same way that it's hooked up to a home stereo when you use the home kit.


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