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manuel1986 
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Posted: May 03, 2012 at 9:28 PM / IP Logged  
Whats up guys well first I will tell you guys what I currently have in my car.
Lanzer Opti 500x2.. on one set of channels I have the 2 Ev's and on the other I have the 8" audio pipe and the 2 6" beyma
Hifonic 440x4 running the 4 tweeters 2 to each channel
Alpine Mrp 1000.1... L7 at 2ohms
Speakers
2 6" 1/2 beyma loudspeakers 8ohms mid range
2 selenium st200 8 ohms Highs
2 selenium st350 8 ohm Highs
2 Electro Voice 10" 8Ohm mid range
1 8" audio pipe mid range
Alpine headunit
15" kicker L7
Clarion EQ
Clarion crossover
I would like to get the max out of all my speakers, I have done everything on my car myself. Can I add any resistors to my tweeters maybe to get them to run cleaner and not distort. All my gains are half way or 3/4 up. I like music I'm not the type to drive around to hear me blocks away but I do like to know that if I want to I can. I just want clarity and loudness. Hope you guys can help me thank you
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Posted: May 03, 2012 at 10:26 PM / IP Logged  
so you just have a bunch of random speakers all over your car that are hooked up to a bunch of random amps and a clarion crossover and EQ and you wonder why your sound isnt right...
what kind of car is all this crammed into?
you say yo have 4 tweeters hooked to a 4 channel amp, but you say you have 2 tweeters on each channel so that equals 8 tweeters... im confused...
how is your clarion crossover set and which outputs go to which amps?
just having your amps set to 3/4 of the way isnt good enough to say that your gains are set right. they could still be set wrong.
i assume when you mention the selenium "highs" you really mean that they are tweeters, am i right? what frequency is the crossover set for these?
why do you only have 1 8" audiopipe midrange?
what size power and ground wire do you have for each amp? how is each amp grounded?   
more speakers does not automatically equal better sound. if all of those speakers arent set up correctly then more speakers usually make things sound much much worse. no offense but your description of your system sounds like chaos.
you say you want clarity and loudness, this is possible only with the right settings and proper wiring and proper installation. once i know exactly what you have going on then we can start the healing, this is just the beginning my friend.
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Posted: May 03, 2012 at 10:48 PM / IP Logged  
The only cure for distortion is more power.  In your situation, there are 2 solutions.  One would be more power, the other would be 4 ohm drivers.
manuel1986 
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Posted: May 03, 2012 at 10:54 PM / IP Logged  
Yes, basically that's about it. Everything is in a 2000 Honda Accord Sedan. Each tweeter is 8 ohms, I have them connected together to 4 ohms bridged each to the 4 channel Hifonics amp.
I have a output coming from the radio to the main Input into the clarion EQ and 2 RCAS Front and REAR running from the EQ to the Crossover. From the crossover I have the them running to the Lanzar and Hifonics. The crossover also has a input/output for sub woofer which I have it running straight from the radio to the crossover from the crossover to the Alpine Mono amp.
Yes, the selenium are tweeters and they're my used as my highs.
I have on my rear armrest 2 tweeters and the 8" audio pipe.
The car is running in complete 0gauge wire. Also I have a Big 3 upgrade with a Optima yellow top battery. The big 3 is also ran with 0Guage. And I have a 200Amp circuit breaker. All of the amps grounds are coming from the chassis of the car to a distribution block :x
Here are some pictures Carpet was completely taken off and everything was ran seperate from each other. The amps and wires looks messy but that was all for the test run to make sure everything turned on. I made holes in the wood and tucked and ran the wire neatly. Hopefully I made sense if I didn't I apologies
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manuel1986 
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Posted: May 03, 2012 at 11:02 PM / IP Logged  
The crossover in that picture you will only see 2 rca the bass and the audio but that before i added the 3rd amp which is the lanzer and removed the kicker amp.
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Posted: May 04, 2012 at 8:13 AM / IP Logged  
you forgot to tell me how your crossovers are set. this is the most important thing because if they are set too high or too low for whatever speakers you are running from a given channel then it will either introduce distortion because you are allowing speakers to play frequencies they are not designed to play or you will filter too much audio that could be played by your speakers which would make your system sound very weak and hollow.
also, if you are not filtering the high frequencies from your mids then this will make your highs sound bad because mids are not designed to sound very good at very high frequencies.
are you using any passive crossovers on any of your speakers? or is everything filtered by your clarion crossover and the amp's crossover?
i am starting to get the impression that your system is just too complicated and you just dont have the right equipment to run your system the way it is right now.
tell me exactly how everything it set (gains, crossovers(hpf,lpf,or full)and what frequency each crossover point is set to, bass boost, and any settings on the radio, and how your eq is set.
answer that and ill have a better idea of what you need to do to clean up your sound.
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Posted: May 04, 2012 at 10:13 AM / IP Logged  
First off, why did you decide to use pro audio gear in your car?  Yes, you can use resisters to pad the tweeters and reduce their relative level, but that may or may not help clear up "distortion."  What sort of distortion?  As mentioned before, we need a complete system diagram to see how this is all hooked up and how you set your Xover settings.  Also, how did you set your gains?  "Half to 3/4" means nothing and my be the cause for the distortion if you simply decided to put them there randomly.
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doolittle63 
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Posted: May 09, 2012 at 12:43 AM / IP Logged  
you not concern of the vibration to that X over ?
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Posted: May 10, 2012 at 11:19 AM / IP Logged  
also, it seems that you dont have any full range speakers up front. i guess you have those 10" mids up front because thats the only thing i dont see in your pictures. all of your highs are behind you. how can you expect that to sound clear when the only high frequencies you hear are being reflected and bonced around your car until they find their way into your ear. every reflection changes the sound and depending on what the sound reflects off of it can either boost or absorb certain frequencies leaving you with a distorted and incomplete audio spectrum. if you are using those 10" mids and trying to pass a full range signal through them then i dont even want to think about how bad that must sound.

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