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Posted: February 20, 2004 at 1:58 PM / IP Logged  

I know that there are ways to cut down on distortion from going to your speaker but how do I limit the RMS that goes to the sub.  I have managed to blow the 1 or more in my subs.  I have the MTX 6000's.  Because of limited space these are about the only subs that would work with out me lifting my back seat.  The system is in a 1999 dodge ram quad cab. 

I also know that by keeping your system low you can prevent your speaker from blowing but is not the answer I am looking for.  I am looking for ways to convert watts into voltage so that I can fuse my speaker lines so that when the watts peak out I don't blow my subs. 

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Posted: February 20, 2004 at 2:11 PM / IP Logged  

So, if I can pick on you, don't mind and no offence either but let's draw a comparison.

If you have a 5.0 Rustang and you do the pilsbury tire bake off, who's fault is it, the sh*tty tires or your heavy foot? Would training wheels or the most expensive tires solve the issue?

If you are blowing a sub it is because you are asking them to do something they are not designed to do, that is play distortion that creates heat or not giving the speakers enough time to dissipate the heat that is generated from continuous play. If you have the bass control on the cd player turned up, turn it down, if you do not have a sub level control in the cd player, get a cd player that has one, double check the crossover point, turn the gain down. These are the common causes of a blown speaker. You want the system to play stinkin loud and safe right? You have to work within the limitations that they are designed to operate in, you are asking them to do a job that they are not designed for.

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Posted: February 20, 2004 at 2:21 PM / IP Logged  
you got it Rob.... when customers ask me " how do i keep from blowing my speakers?" my standard reply is.... If you hear it starting to distort... TURN IT DOWN
Kevin Gerry
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The gain on the amp is at 1/4 the out put level on the sub at the radio is at 9 it goes to 15 the amp is at a DB lift of 6.  The crossover point is at 120hz the volume i sonly at 22 when it can max at 33. 
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Posted: February 20, 2004 at 4:07 PM / IP Logged  
Crossover point is OK, I prefer mine a little lower, but then I'm not in your vehicle, with your system. A db lift is a bass boost and will send an amp into clipping = smelly  speaker. Your volume control is also the next culprit, it is not a non clipping preout, this means that as you turn the volume up, the cd player itself may send a clipped signal to the amp, the amp does it's job and send the clipped signal to the amp where you get smelly speaker. The more sub gain you use on the cd player as well will also send the amp into clipping. When you couple all these things together they just amplify the problem. Good to see that the gain is not turned too high.
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Posted: February 20, 2004 at 4:15 PM / IP Logged  
set your bd lift to flat and see how it sounds... keep in mind every 3bd bump is a DOUBLING in output... lastly, dont use the volume control scale as a guide, it doesnt matter if the scale will physically go to 20, 30 or 50.... it's what you hear...if it goes to 30 and it starts to clip at 10 then you have a problem somewhere...but if you start to hear it distort, back off on the volume.... or expect to buy new subs
Kevin Gerry
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Classic Car Audio
since 1979

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