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sean imeson 
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Posted: April 15, 2005 at 8:00 AM / IP Logged  
I don't get it, I have two amps, a 200 watt 4 channel orion and a jbl 180.1 watt. the jbl for my two JL subs 12.01 works just fine, the orion amp has the protection light is always red.(even when the car is off, the key is out of the ignition)
The 4 channel 200 watt orion amp has 2 speakers running at 75 watts rms and 2 running at 50 watts rms. both my amps have the same remote and power source.
Note: I grounded both my amps together.
What can it be?
thank you for any advice and/or is there a website where i could go though a list of things i can do.
much appreciated
Sean
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Posted: April 15, 2005 at 8:59 AM / IP Logged  

Here are a number of thoughts:

Your speakers "run" at whatever the amplifier puts out, not the number printed on them.  If you have four speakers connected to a four-channel amp, they will each receive the same theoretical power output from the amp depending on their impedence.

You say your protection light is on with the vehicle off, is the Hed Unit off too?  If so, how is the amp getting power?  What did you use for the remote "on" signal?

A constant protection light generally means one of these things is wrong: 1) system power is too low (meaning your alternator and/or battery is overloaded or defective.) 2) speaker impedence is too low or a speaker lead is shorted out or shorted to ground. 3) an input (RCA) is shorted or grounded. 4) the input gain is too high. 5) the amp is bad. 6) the head unit is bad.

Try this.  First, fix the remote power on situation.  The amp(s) should receive a signal from the HU and only turn on when it does.  First, turn your gain all the way down.  If this clears the light you had it set incorrectly, you need to set it properly.  If it's still on, disconnect all four speakers from the amp.  If the protect light is still on, the speakers are OK, if it goes out the speakers or speaker wires are your problem.  Next disconnect the RCA's.  If the protect light is still on, the RCA's and your HU are OK, if it goes out one of these are your problem.  Also measure system voltage with a DMM at the amplifier and ensure you have 12volts or greater.  If your voltage is OK and nothing you do clears the light the amp is probably bad.

If you don't understand how to do what I suggest above, you will need to take the car to a car sudio shop and pay for some help.  Cheers.

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sean imeson 
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Posted: April 15, 2005 at 10:01 AM / IP Logged  
WOW
 
thank you, i go through what you told me and get back to you
 
 
Sean
wayland1985 
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Posted: April 18, 2005 at 6:20 PM / IP Logged  
A lot of people forget about fuses too. Check all of the fuses are good, and also check that they are fitting tight.
Beleive it or not, my 1800 watt rms amplifier was in protect for the longest time. The culprit turned out to be an ANL fuse that wasn't screwed in tight enough. A few turns of an alan wrench, and I was back in business.
So check all of your fuses, on the amp, and on the power wire.
Also, check to make sure that all of your wire going into the amplifier doens't have any exposed ends. There shouldn't be any visible copper outside of the amplifier's input block, only insulation. Also be sure to make sure there is enough wire fed into the power block and that the wire is tightly secured (usually by set screw)
~wayland

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