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Posted: May 02, 2005 at 11:17 PM / IP Logged  
i ran into a little problem when i started soldering today. i can not seem to get that thin layer on the tip of my iron, it keeps rolling off. it worked yesterday for the first time, but not anymore. i wiped the tip real well with some wet cloth, doesn't seem to have any dirt or anything on it...what could be the problem...
ps. every time i touch the tip, it extracts some black liquid, and then it rolls up...maybe i should try different solder?
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Posted: May 02, 2005 at 11:41 PM / IP Logged  

The black liquid I would guess is the rosin core of the solder.  It cleans the surface that you are soldering.  As long as it heats up whatever you are soldering thoroughly enough, I wouldn't worry about the tip of the soldering iron not being perfectly tinned. 

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Posted: May 02, 2005 at 11:59 PM / IP Logged  
You could also try using a tip tinner like this Rat shack has some.
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Posted: May 03, 2005 at 12:52 AM / IP Logged  
I wouldn't worry about the tip of the soldering iron not being perfectly tinned.
that's the thing, it doesn't stay on the tip at all, it just rolls right off. (i start at low temp.)
and yeah, that tip tinner looks good. will see if they have it at home depot, perhaps? thank you for replies.
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Posted: May 03, 2005 at 2:37 AM / IP Logged  

What are you trying to solder?  What you want to do is touch the soldering iron to the thing you want soldered and add a little solder to provide a good thermal coupling.  As soon as it gets hot enough, the solder will pull in, and you can add more solder until there is enough. 

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Posted: May 03, 2005 at 6:38 AM / IP Logged  
Use thicker solder. I had the same problem when I solder boards on a PS2. Also, as suggested before, make sure that the surface taht your soldering heats up.
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Posted: May 03, 2005 at 7:34 AM / IP Logged  

Sounds to me like the iron is not heating up to high enough temperature.  It's getting warm enough to extract the rosin but not hot enough to pull the solder.

The iron on the soldering gun builds up with oxidation and loses some electrical contact with the gun.   Loosen the holding nut, remove the iron and sand it to a copper color, then tighten it back into the gun.  You  should now get the proper electrical contact for full heat.

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Posted: May 03, 2005 at 10:11 AM / IP Logged  
What are you trying to solder?
radio harness (16awg)
thanks for all the tips.

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