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skylark 
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Posted: May 07, 2005 at 9:09 PM / IP Logged  
I did a lot of reading on this form about blowing fuses and none seem top fit my problem, so here goes. I been driving my car full time for about two weeks. 69 olds toronado, now im am running 2 amps, the old lanzar vibe amp for my mids and highs and a jbl 1200 Bp.1 amp. It is running 2 15 inch eclsipe subs that are 4 ohm dvc. Now the amp never gets hot, and all of sudden last night i started blowing fuses at the distrubtion box.  But only the Jbl amp distrubiton side would blow, not the vibe. Now the jbl amp side is running off an 80 amp fuse just like the vibe. The power is 1/0 guage wire to the distrubuiton box which has two 80 amp fuses output. The battery fuse is a 300 amp fuse if that matters. I checked and double checked all the wireing and their is nothing wrong or touching. what seems to be the problem. I did recently mess with the gain, on the jbl amp, and im gonna turn it back right away to see if that is the problem. Thanks in advance
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Posted: May 07, 2005 at 9:18 PM / IP Logged  

skylark wrote:
I did recently mess with the gain, on the jbl amp, 

There is your answer.  Gain control is not something to be "messed with," it is to be set properly to match the output from your head unit and left alone.

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Posted: May 07, 2005 at 9:27 PM / IP Logged  
i second that motion
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Hello all.  I also have a JBL BP1200.1 Amplifier, and when I had my Infinity Perfect 12.1d's wired in parallel which would present a near 1 ohm load to the amplifier and I tried to play it at unreasonable volumes the amp would go into protection for only a second then start playing again when I lowered the volume.  I determined that it was the 30 amp fuse in the dist. block, and an 80 amp fuse solved my problem.  I now have a solid non fused dist. block and a 250 amp ANL fuse at the battery.

- My point is I thought the bp1200.1 was NOT 1 ohm stable, maybe some are.  When I gave mine a 2 ohm load visa vie SVC mode on a DVC 12.1d it absolutely rocked,  and toasted the 12.1d in 3 months.

- My question is how could you push this amp to that level where its blowing fuses, and still listen to it?

- I think if its blowing fuses it might be broken, the legacy amp I used to have started blowing fuses.  I replaced them once, and the second time that amp smoked out worse than me.  Legacy is crap, I upgraded to Hifonics. 

- I heard if you replace the fuse with one of half the strength and it still blows at low volumes there maybe problems, DO NOT replace the fuse with a stronger one.

Thats all I have for now.

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skylark 
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Posted: May 07, 2005 at 11:37 PM / IP Logged  

i reset set my gain back to the place it was before, and the problem went away, but i wont know for sure until tomorrow because i still will need to drive around like i do for a FEW hours playing my music at full blast. Now i know all about gains and everything so i wasnt surprised but the main thing is last night, not the fuses but the amp bass would come on then a second later shut off so i  popped the trunk and saw the amp was going into protection for 1 second then playing then protection on and off for a minute before i took the fuse out of the distrubuiton box to shut the amp off. THAT is my main concern  because i FIGUREED messing with the gain is what started my fuses to blow. So what do you think this is? Remember i drove my car for over 3 hours before the amp starting going into protection  will and it was hot at all and the subs are wired down to 1 ohm load.  I'm gonna get back to this topic late tomorrow night after i have more testing done by driving around so i can come back and explain. Funny thing is i have never had these problems before, so im thinking maybe the amp is getting ready to go to the amp graveyardI keep blowing fuses! -- posted image.

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racer427 
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Posted: May 08, 2005 at 11:36 AM / IP Logged  

You statd that you are running 2 4ohm dvc subs. I asume the you have them wire to 1ohm at the amp?.

I am pretty sure that amp is not 1 ohm stable and maybe the reason that you are having these problems.

CHris

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greenrango 
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Posted: May 09, 2005 at 7:57 PM / IP Logged  
the amp is on a load
skylark 
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Posted: May 10, 2005 at 1:51 AM / IP Logged  

i fixed the problem, it was the gain, when i messed with the gain everything started messing up, and since i turned it back to where i had first set it, everything has been fine. So all along it was the wrong gain setting.I keep blowing fuses! -- posted image.

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