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Posted: August 21, 2005 at 2:29 AM / IP Logged  
would it be a bad idea to run my yellowcap optima battery off of my regular car battery in the front? then off the optima battery ill be running my amp and such? strait pos wire from regular batt to the optima batt... and grounded in different places, good or bad idea?
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Posted: August 21, 2005 at 10:05 AM / IP Logged  

Some say it's not a good idea to run two different batteries for a dual battery set up. If you do, make sure you purcahse a battery isolator otherwise you will run into problems with charging. The ground doesn't matter if it's in two different places, but just ensure you meter the battery in the back for a grounding location that is as close to absolute 0 as possible.

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Posted: August 21, 2005 at 1:15 PM / IP Logged  
It's not a charging issue, but a DIScharging issue. When the car is off, one battery will have a lower internal impedance, and this one will cause the other battery to discharge through it - it will remain fully charged - and the other will slowly collapse. Lead-acid batteries do not like being discharged to deep states, and so one of the batteries will die FAR sooner than the other.
If you are wanting to do this, consider how old the battery in front is, and if it is probably getting ready to be replaced soon anyway. Replace it with an identical battery (another SAME MODEL yellow-top) and you will avoid the need for isolators and what-nots like that.
Everything else Jeff told you... Its right on. Good grounds are essential!
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted: August 22, 2005 at 12:24 AM / IP Logged  
so if i got two optima batteries then... one for my car... ran a pos wire from that battery back to my second optima battery... good grounding... no problem? or still gonna need an "isolator" what is that anyway? sry im a battery newb
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Posted: August 22, 2005 at 6:01 PM / IP Logged  
Yes, you are absolutely correct. Since you won't need an isolator, you won't really need to worry about what they do, but they are simply diodes or relays that allow the alternator to "see" both batteries during charging, but will not allow the batteries to "see" each other. They "isolate" one from the other, allowing one to power your stereo, without the other doing the same. I HIGHLY and COMPLETELY recommend against them, but others highly recommend FOR them...
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

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