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Where do you guys have your sub's crossover set?  What is the equation again that shows you how power declines after the cutoff point?  I may have phrased that wrong - I lost my CA&E magazine that talks about it.

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Anyone have any suggestions?
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Subs are usually low-passed anywhere between 70Hz and 200Hz, depending on the setup and what you're trying to accomplish.  What "equation" are you talking about?
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something to do with the efficiency below the crossover point.  I'll research
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A crossover filter reduces the signal strength above (for a low-pass) or below (for a high-pass) the cut-off frequency depending on the slope.  Crossovers can have several slopes, generally in multiples of 6db per octave.  (6, 12, 18, 24, 36 being the most common.)  An octave is a doubling of frequency.  So, a 12db/oct low pass filter set at, say, 100Hz will reduce the incoming signal strength so it is down by 12db at 200Hz, and by 24db at 400Hz, etc.  A 10db reduction in signal strength is 10 times less amplifier power.  20db is 100 times less.  You could take this data and create an equation if you like.  Here's a page with simple xover curves illustrated for you.
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Thats right! 

In most music what is the frequency of most of the bass.  On this CD I have it starts at 320Hz and goes down to 10Hz and my bass seems to be the strongest at about 100 - 120 Hz.  Would changing the x-over frequency help with the low end bass reproduction?

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Yes, the first four octaves (20-40Hz, 40-80Hz, 80-160Hz, 160-320Hz) are generally called the "bass" region.  The purpose of a sub-woofer is to reinforce the first two octaves (and a little higher sometimes, plus the lower sub-20Hz tones that we cannot really hear but that we can most certainly feel.)  Where is your subwoofer low-pass set now, and where is your main speaker high-pass set?  Whatever crossover frequency you use, these settings should be the same.
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I've been playing with it, it is at about 80 right now - is that what you recommend?

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coppellstereo wrote:
I've been playing with it, it is at about 80 right now - is that what you recommend?

That's where I recomend.

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Are there any disadvantages to turning my subwoofers lpf to the upper extent of the range and using my HU's subwoofer crossover?  This is much easier to set.  I can adjust between 50, 80, and 135

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