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swoolenpuppy 
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Hello everyone! I am a newbie and have been using the search button alot lately. I finally joined to learn and share ideas with everyone. I just ordered 8 mtx thunder 5500 10's(single 4ohm) subs. I will be building an enclosure this week. I am leanning tward a bandpass enclosure. The reason for this is that I had one back in 1998 and it was unbelieveable! That specific enclosure played very hard across the board. I spent 2 hours with mtx's tech the other day and he suggested that I build a 6th order enclosure. We played with numbers and ports for quite some time. Now I have never built a 6th order enclosure  but have built many successful 4th order enclosures. THey do take alot of time  and knowledge to build. THats not an issure here. Here are some of the numbers we came up with....

Low frequency chamber

vent- 45"x2"x25"(deep) 90sq" port area

9cuft total air space with woofer and port displacement

this chamber is tuned @ 32hz

High frequency chamber

vent 45"x4"x7"(deep)

8 total cuft with woofer/port displacement

this chamber will be tuned @70hz

 The tech said that the woofer will play @25hz but he recommends not for a long time. Here are a few more specs....

@25hz will have +4db gain

@33hz will be a 6.75 db gain

@48hz will be a 9db gain

@74hz will be a 10db gain

THe tech also stated that between 40hz and 60hz the average gain will be about 9.25db.  I mainly listen to hiphop but I alos listen to 80's,soft rock,and metal. I am looking for a seriously loud sound. My current setup is a 02' denali with 8 sony explode 10's. I have them in a 1.25cuft ported enclosure. It hits very hard but doesnt seem to like the lower frequencies. I know that they are a entry level sub but they do get with the program. People are amazed how well they perform for a "cheap" sub. I am moving up to mtx woofers and hopefully can pull some good numbers with them. My current is in check by the way. I will be feeding each new sub with 300w rms. I have an alternator upgrade,multiple grounds(8 to be exact), dual 1/0 power cable and 2 optima yellow tops.  So I am looking for ideas and opinions on the enclosure. I am open to anything so feel free to post up.

I am also kicking the idea around on a ported enclosure but havent convinced myself yet. Let me know what you guys think. Oh and buy the way, space isnt an issue. I am working with 20 cuft;)

Thanks,Michael 

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Posted: August 14, 2006 at 9:09 AM / IP Logged  
Sounds like the skies the limit here. One thing that I would invest in a line driver or a HU that has high voltage output. As far as the sub enclosure goes, what are you wanting for suggestions ? Doesn't sound like you have much choice as far as a 6th order BP enclosure. You can try to fabricate it as best you can out of 3/4 MDF and try to make it look nicer with some custom work like fiberglassing the parts that show, but that's about it.
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swoolenpuppy 
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Posted: August 14, 2006 at 9:17 AM / IP Logged  

I do have a line driver that I can play with.  Would a ported enclosure be a better chaoice? What abput a 4th order enclosure? Would that be a better enclosure than the 6th order?

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Posted: August 14, 2006 at 9:41 AM / IP Logged  
Id say MTX knows what they are talking about so stick with what they say. Their techs are pretty knowledgable
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I will call the tech this morning and talk to him again. He is a kick azz tech and just came back to mtx. I just wanted different opinions from other peeps;)
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I forgot to ask what kind of 6th order BP the tech told you to build. There are atleast 6 different variations of a 6th order BP to go with.

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Both chambers will be ported.  basically the same as 4th order ...

here is a pic..  [IMG]https://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/images/quasisixbandpass_.gif[/IMG]

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My question to you is this:  do you want it to sound okay as a daily driver, but still be competitive in SPL?

I think this box would give you the competitive side but not the daily driver side.  In other words, forget about listing types of music you like to listen to.  If you want to be able to adjust it so that you can use it for music, quit trying for max db's and let the tech know what your interests are.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
swoolenpuppy 
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Posted: August 14, 2006 at 8:05 PM / IP Logged  

that sounds logical. I told him to pretty much design something that he would run and he came up with a 10cuft ported enclosure. it has a f3@13hz with a 60sq inch port.I think this enclosure will do well. How does it look to you guys??

20hz-57hz

@60hz there is a 4.5 db gain

@70hz this a 3 db gain

@90hz there is a 2 db gain

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