long throw 5 1/4 comps?

Is there such a beast with SQ in mind? I've been installing Diamond D6 5-1/4" comps with great SQ results. They just don't seem to handle any bass? I know I'm fighting physics here; but would like to find a set that can push more air. I'd like to hear some of your experiences. My current project involves installing these in the dash with no enclosure. I'm just packing fiber fill around and behind the mids. Thanks!

5.25s aren't meant to handle bass.  Just midrange.  Midbass and subbass comes with larger cones...but you know that, I'm sure.Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.

stevdart wrote: 5.25s aren't meant to handle bass.  Just midrange.  Midbass and subbass comes with larger cones...but you know that, I'm sure.

Yeah; I'm aware of that. I'm limited to 5-1/4's here and was looking for the most midbass out of such a small mid. I'd like to get a more seamless integration between the mids and sub. Thanks!

I don't think stuffing polyfill around the backs of your mids is doing any good.  I've found that the door cavities and slightly larger (read 6.5) mids can best seamlessly bridge that gap to the sub.  But, using both door speakers and dash speakers will lead to other problems.  Are you trying to work with a Wrangler?Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.

stevdart wrote: I don't think stuffing polyfill around the backs of your mids is doing any good.  I've found that the door cavities and slightly larger (read 6.5) mids can best seamlessly bridge that gap to the sub.  But, using both door speakers and dash speakers will lead to other problems.  Are you trying to work with a Wrangler?

Yes; still working on the Wrangler.  I've had great results as you say by installing 5-1/4's into doors or other enclosed areas. I'm stuck with the stock dash locations in the Jeep. I'm getting very good soundstaging using the different modes offered by the Pioneer 780 HU. I'd love to stick speakers into the doors, but I can't find any info on it ever being done. I'm not into fiberglass work so I'm at the mercy of a local shop. I can't seem to find a shop that is really interested in doing a custom door enclosure like the days of old.

I'm curious why you believe that fiberfill is of no help behind open comps? I also had someone tell me to stick with coaxials because they perform better in a free air space??? 

Thanks!

Try poly baggin em...old school trick I learned Take a few layers of plastic sheeting (you could cut big ziplock bags and use them), lay it over the mounting hole and stuff some polyfill in there and mount the speaker...kinda like the foam baffles from cruthfield but cheaper

aznboi3644 wrote: Try poly baggin em...old school trick I learned Take a few layers of plastic sheeting (you could cut big ziplock bags and use them), lay it over the mounting hole and stuff some polyfill in there and mount the speaker...kinda like the foam baffles from cruthfield but cheaper

Very interesting. I never heard of this. So just keep the bags intact and stuff them with polyfill? Stick the opening of the bag through the speaker opening from the rear and screw the speaker over it? Thanks!

dsrtjeeper wrote: aznboi3644 wrote: Try poly baggin em...old school trick I learned Take a few layers of plastic sheeting (you could cut big ziplock bags and use them), lay it over the mounting hole and stuff some polyfill in there and mount the speaker...kinda like the foam baffles from cruthfield but cheaper Very interesting. I never heard of this. So just keep the bags intact and stuff them with polyfill? Stick the opening of the bag through the speaker opening from the rear and screw the speaker over it? Thanks!

Well I guess you could try that out...but back in the day people just used a few sheets and stuffed it in the hole then stuff it with poly fill...but leave the edge of the sheet laying over the sides of the hole then mount the speaker...it is the same concept as these but DIY style http://www.crutchfield.com/S-6LNiez1qhOj/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?search=baffles&i=237XT55