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Posted: April 02, 2008 at 7:08 AM / IP Logged  
Hi there
I bought a (cheap) car alarm with remote start
I have 2 questions:
1 - where do I connect the purple wire. In the instructions (picture below) says to wrap 5 turns around the HW coil. I do not have a separate coil, each spark plug has it's own electrical system generating the spark on the top of the engine. There are only some wires leading to it.
2 - as the alarm doesn't have a lift windows options, I wondered if I could make one myself using a timer relay: I would get the signal from the door lock output of the alarm, and use this to controll the windows lifting system. My car does raise windows then I lock doors (and keep the key in locking position a bit longer)
PS: yes I know it's a cheap alarm, but it does come with a pocketknife-like key
2000 vw passat 1.8t remote start -- posted image.
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Posted: April 02, 2008 at 10:02 AM / IP Logged  

so you buy this cheap POS to save money. What is YOUR time worth? Its your time that will be wasted trying to get this money saver to do the things a better unit already will.

Plus your parts.   pretty soon the money you have spent equals the monsy you would have spent on a quality product.

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TachometerGREEN/ blue2000 vw passat 1.8t remote start -- posted image.black 10 pin connector
At ECM housing in the drivers side rear corner of the engine compartment.
Cris
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If you must proceed check for a timed output from the alarm R/S and connect to your (neg ) lock wire, set the time for 2 seconds longer than it takes to close windows and rof if thereis one.
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Also you will have to "kill" your factory alarm under carpet  in front of one of the front seats
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Posted: April 03, 2008 at 1:36 AM / IP Logged  
KarTuneMan wrote:

so you buy this cheap POS to save money. What is YOUR time worth? Its your time that will be wasted trying to get this money saver to do the things a better unit already will.

Plus your parts.   pretty soon the money you have spent equals the monsy you would have spent on a quality product.

I didn't buy this because it was cheap, but because it was the only alarm that I could find with a pocket-knife-like key. I HATE having to carry extra stuff into my pocket, and this was the only solution to having only ONE piece of equipment that includes both the key and the remote on/off for the alarm.
Currently I have on my car a UNGO alarm, and had a bit of experience with alarms with previous cars. IMO the one of the most important part is the shock sensor, that's the cause for most false alarms. Of course, the relays into the main unit of the alarm must be good too....
Is there any other alarm on the market that includes the key into the remote? like this:
2000 vw passat 1.8t remote start -- posted image.
2000 vw passat 1.8t remote start -- posted image.
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Posted: April 03, 2008 at 1:45 AM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
If you must proceed check for a timed output from the alarm R/S and connect to your (neg ) lock wire, set the time for 2 seconds longer than it takes to close windows and rof if thereis one.
I have no factory alarm
What do you mean by "set the time for 2 seconds longer than it takes to close windows". You mean by using a timed relay?
Thanks for the tips ;)
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Your alarm will either have an output that goes neg when the alarm is engaged, conect this to a timeer relay such as DEI 508d which you can buy in Romania, or there will be an aux output that you can set for timed output. The 2 extra seconds allow for glitches or a slow window in the future, the weather (damp etc) also controls close rate. If that timed output can be set to work automatically on arming, job done and you shouldn't need a relay if its over 150mamps. 
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Posted: April 03, 2008 at 4:01 AM / IP Logged  
I'll use the negative output that is used to lock doors, that should do it.
Thanks
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Posted: April 21, 2008 at 4:01 AM / IP Logged  
I have made a timer to raise windows, it WORKS! (based on NE555)
I have installed the alarm, but it doesn't sense the engine running
I have connected the purple wire to the "GREEN/ blue At ECM housing in the drivers side rear corner of the engine compartment"
It just starts the engine, and then cuts off and tries again :(
Any more suggestions to where I should get the running signal?
Thanks
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