the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
icon

06 scion tc with remote start viper 5900


Post ReplyPost New Topic
< Prev Topic Next Topic >
phlame217 
Member - Posts: 27
Member spacespace
Joined: February 28, 2008
Location: Oklahoma, United States
Posted: May 13, 2008 at 4:33 PM / IP Logged  
Okay, installed viper 5900 w/ remote start on manual 06 tC
Everything works minus remote start but you can hear the relays clicking when attempting to start from the xcrs but the starter doesnt start.
I have a neutral safety switch via a magnetic switch and the hood pin and everything else is functioning as it should becuase the car attempts to start 3 times.
Car has two igniton, two starter, and one accessory.
The two ignitions are connected as directed with the purple wire and green wire connected on either side of the ignition 1 wire.
I set up a relay to drive the the second ignition wire which I verified is working due to the gauges wont sweep without it connected.
Accessory has juice
The starters are connected with the pink to starter 1 (blue) and pink/white to starter two (yellow). Both have juice.
Car wont start with or without key in ignition which says its not the 556uw bypass malfunctioning.
Tach wire is connected and learned verified by a solid led.
I do not have the RED / white wire connected as i thought is wasn't necessary. I havent attempted to connect it yet
Any ideas?
i am an idiot 
Platinum - Posts: 13,667
Platinum spaceThis member consistently provides reliable informationspace
Joined: September 21, 2006
Location: Louisiana, United States
Posted: May 13, 2008 at 4:50 PM / IP Logged  

Sit in the car, press and hold the clutch pedal to the floor, then try remote start the vehicle.  Let us know what happens.

phlame217 
Member - Posts: 27
Member spacespace
Joined: February 28, 2008
Location: Oklahoma, United States
Posted: May 13, 2008 at 6:52 PM / IP Logged  
Forgot to mention that, clutch has a bypass that works.
I attached the red-white wire to another 12v constant source and it atleast cranks now.
But for some reason, it wont learn the tach now, it worked once and the next time it lost signal or something because its what the diagnostics say.
Mike M2 
Platinum - Posts: 2,652
Platinum spacespace
Joined: June 29, 2005
Location: United States
Posted: May 13, 2008 at 8:15 PM / IP Logged  

Huh? I think you have it wired wrong. The pinks are ignition wires 1 and 2. The purple and green are the first starter and you need a relay for starter 2. Do you just have it written wrong above?

As for tach, are you at the OBD3 connector under the dash? it should be the wire in the corner by itself....

Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
phlame217 
Member - Posts: 27
Member spacespace
Joined: February 28, 2008
Location: Oklahoma, United States
Posted: May 13, 2008 at 8:21 PM / IP Logged  
Well I probably miss typed because i was trying to do it from memory, but i know its right because the car cranked and ran a few times fine but now it loses tach signal. Diagnostic tests comfirm that.
I think the issue is i used the wrong gauge t-tap on the tach wire because that would explain why it was able to learn the tach and perhaps it got bumped and lost signal. I am going to go get the right gauge later tonight and ill update the status.
techman93 
Silver - Posts: 591
Silver spacespace
Joined: October 28, 2006
Location: Pennsylvania, United States
Posted: May 13, 2008 at 8:25 PM / IP Logged  
The wires you wrote and to what color doesn't add up. Green and purple go to the 1st starter wire as a starter kill, green towards key side and purple towards starter side. Pink is ignition 1 and pink/white is ignition 2 or 2nd accessory however you choose to program it.
Then you have orange which is an accessory. Then as noted above you need a separate starter relay. Double check your bypass after you check your primary connections.
The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya
phlame217 
Member - Posts: 27
Member spacespace
Joined: February 28, 2008
Location: Oklahoma, United States
Posted: May 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM / IP Logged  
Well either way, I just miss typed but everything is wired correctly because I verified it. I have narrowed the issue to the tachometer wire and I am going to fix it tomorrow.
phlame217 
Member - Posts: 27
Member spacespace
Joined: February 28, 2008
Location: Oklahoma, United States
Posted: May 13, 2008 at 11:25 PM / IP Logged  
I was wrestless tonight and decided to get it taken care of.
I couldn't find 18-22 gauge ttaps for the life of me after visiting two autozones, an orielys and a pep-boys.
So i resolved back to the classic cut and solder, and it works like a charm now! I am so happy now.
tedmond 
Gold - Posts: 4,610
Gold spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Security and Convenience. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: January 06, 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posted: May 14, 2008 at 6:00 AM / IP Logged  

you should avoid ttaps as they are unreliable IMO.

joch1314 
Copper - Posts: 301
Copper spacespace
Joined: March 25, 2008
Location: Texas, United States
Posted: May 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM / IP Logged  
I agree with tedmond....i started working at a new shop, and am now the only installer.  They sent me a buttload of T-taps, and they are just gonna sit there as i really prefer not to use them at all!!! 
...half of the truth can be worse than a lie. <----Roger Russell said that..
Page of 2

  Printable version Printable version Post ReplyPost New Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

  •  
Search the12volt.com
Follow the12volt.com Follow the12volt.com on Facebook
Sunday, April 28, 2024 • Copyright © 1999-2024 the12volt.com, All Rights Reserved Privacy Policy & Use of Cookies
Disclaimer: *All information on this site ( the12volt.com ) is provided "as is" without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to fitness for a particular use. Any user assumes the entire risk as to the accuracy and use of this information. Please verify all wire colors and diagrams before applying any information.

Secured by Sectigo
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
Support the12volt.com
Top
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer