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scottjima 
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I have a new Job 3 F-250 Lariat w/ the Advanced Security Group.  I purchased the Ford Gold Alarm/Remote Start and the PATS module for the truck.  I would like to install this myself and am looking for any tips/tricks.  I am specifically looking for help from those who have actually installed it themselves on a 2008.

-Where did you mount the alarm box?

-Did you need anything for the install?  Relays, diodes, etc?

-The kit came with two resistors.  What are these for?  Another model vehicle?

-How do you enable the priority unlock so the driver door unlocks first, then the passenger?  I have read that additional relays are required, but I am not sure if this is true.

-What is the WHITE/ red wire from the PATS module connect to? It is not listed in the directions anywhere.

-The install manual lists two wiring diagrams for the drivers side kick panel harness. One diagram lists the door locks and headlight outputs, etc. The other is just locks only. They differ in that the one for locks only uses two different wires to connec to the door unlock switch side and door lock switch side. I am thinking the diagram without the headlight connections is for a model truck with fewer options than the Lariat I have???

-Anything else you can think of?

-It looks like this alarm has the ability to do other functions.  For example, roll down windows, turn on seat heaters, etc.  The instructions don't say how to hook these up.  Any input?

I am planning on installing Friday through the weekend...  I'll try to take pics and do a write-up on everything to help others.  This looks like a big job, but doable...

reax222 
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Mine is a 2002 and I took out the ford/code alarm system and replaced it with a compustar.
You have what is passing as a VSM (vehicle security module), there should be one wire for unlock and one wire for lock. This is for the second unlock. To do priority (I did in my truck), you will probably have to cut into the factory door actuator wiring. Since you are only unlocking the vehicle, you only need one relay. If it's the still the same, the actuator uses a 5 wire reverse polarity. Meaning, that once you have the relay clicking, you will connect the motor unlock wire to 30, the stock unlock wire to the 87a and 12v to the 87.
Once you have it worked out, you will need to program the alarm for priority unlock.
If you want to go to the door triggers instead of the dome light, you will need 8 diodes. This is a pain compared to just using the dome light for intrusion.
The brain has outputs, you need to wire the outputs to relays. Window controls should be done through a module. Just about anything else is easily done. I have a pace Edwards electronic tonneau, I used the trunk pop to open it and it closes when I arm the alarm.
scottjima 
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Posted: September 18, 2008 at 5:54 AM / IP Logged  

So what are the chances of the relays & diodes being built into the brain?  The instructions simply state to connect the certain color wire from the alarm to a certain color wire in a specific location...  It doesn't say anything about relays or diodes...  I can work on windows or something else after I get the alarm/remote start working.

Thanks for the help.

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Not good for the priority unlock. To only do one door, you will need to interrupt the factory wiring. I believe this to be your door lock diagram, https://www.the12volt.com/doorlocks/page3.asp#5w. You don't need two relays for priority unlock because you are only unlocking the door, that diagram does both lock and unlock.
You probably don't need the diodes if you use the dome light instead of the door triggers.
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The drivers only door unlock is PURPLE / grey in the big harness in the drivers kick. You will need 1 relay for this alone. It needs to be wired as rev. polarity.

The "rest" of the doors can be unlocked with a negative pulse (second unlock) yellow/purple in the same harnesssss as the drivers door wire.

Lock all is blue/lt.green in that same harness.

scottjima 
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Thanks for the help guys.  I'll update once it is done.  The only other thing I need to figure out is how to turn on the seat heater from the #2 button on the remote...
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The drivers heated switch trigger requires a latched pulse. Grey/blue wire at the switch.

The pass. is grey / YELLOW, same location.

scottjima 
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Thanks Again!

Anybody know if the following is possible...

I want the horn to honk when pressin the lock button twice (same as factory keyless entry) and when pressing the panic button.

I do not want the horn to honk when pressing the unlock button twice (using priority unlock) to unlock the remaining doors.

I do not want the horn to honk when remote starting the truck.  I will be parking outside sometimes and don't want to bother others when remote starting early in the morning.

The way I understand it, the alarm can be programmed to confirmation chirp the horn (meaning second press of lock and unlock button & remote start command received/truck started)

If I have to just disable the confirmation chirps, will it still chirp when remote starting the truck?

scottjima 
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KarTuneMan wrote:

The drivers heated switch trigger requires a latched pulse. Grey/blue wire at the switch.

The pass. is grey / YELLOW, same location.

Do I need to purchase something additional to send a latched pulse?  If so, any part number and retailers?

Any idea what wires to hook up from the alarm to connect to the grey/blue driver seat heater?  (Pressing #2 on the remote)

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The DEI timer relay pack doodeedah.... Don't know the part # off of the top of my bald head. (DEI 528T I think)

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