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tym1200

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Posted: September 25, 2009 at 2:44 PM / IP Logged

I have a 2000 Integra, recently installed a galaxy remote start, and the DEI 556HW immobiliser bypass. I made all of the connections for the remote start module and the immobiliser module simply by stripping wires and using electrical tape, pretty carefully. Everything works fine, havent had any problems remote starting the car, or starting with the key. I have read that you are supposed to solder the data wires for the bypass, is this really necessary? I just don't want it to quit working this winter and be stuck outside having to work on it.

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Posted: September 25, 2009 at 3:56 PM / IP Logged

two ways to do every job... and one of them's ... properly

i would definately solder my wires..... like you said... it's a real pain at -45C to have to start troubleshooting something.....

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howie ll

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Posted: September 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM / IP Logged

You didn't solder? And you admitted it? Not just weather extremes, what about vibrations etc.

tym1200

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Posted: September 25, 2009 at 6:13 PM / IP Logged

I didn't solder because I suck at it. I cant figure out how to hold the wire on the tip of the soldering iron and keep pressure on it, and also hold the solder to push it onto the wire. Esp. in a small area. I would just solder the 3 wires ( the data in and out, and the data 2 that another wire splices into). Anyways does anyone have some good advice on the best way to solder wires in a small area like this, without having 3 hands?

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Posted: September 25, 2009 at 6:38 PM / IP Logged

Spend more than $10 on a soldering iron and it not too hard. Cheap ones don't get very hot and it takes forever to heat up the solder. You shouldn't be holding the wires. You twist them together, hold the solder in one hand, and the iron in the other.

This one is good for a hobbyist.

Soldering iron

Get the ST4 tip, which is a wider tip.

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Posted: September 25, 2009 at 8:14 PM / IP Logged

Always solder...But if your going to poke and wrap...etc...Tightening a zip-tie around the "twist" point helps alot...! So use "good" tape(3M 33+)...It tends not to come undone in the heat(well not as bad as cheap tape...)...So you can tape the connection...then add the zip-tie...!

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howie ll

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I use Weller butane cordless, you could try either the Pyropen junior or the larger Pyropen, only proviso is to refuel with pure butane, not lighter fuel bcause the impurities in the later wil clog the mechanism. I also use a Weller Gun when I have AC access. As Mr. Worm says twist the wires together soldering iron in one hand, solder in the other and the solder should "melt and flow" into the joint. I have supposedly "repetitive strain" injuries to my hand and wrist but I'm still doing that. If I'm butt jointing I use heat shrink and if it's a "Y" joint I use Scotch 33+. One company I worked for many years ago made us use amalgamating tape and a cable tie.

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On a slight bye line here, how come the Pyropen jnr is 50% cheaper in the UK whilst the guns are 50% more expensive?

tym1200

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Posted: September 26, 2009 at 7:32 PM / IP Logged

Ok I took everyones adivce and went ahead and soldered all the immobilizer bypass/clutch bypass joints and remote start joints, took me a good 3 hours by the time I was done. Used the heatshrink for the 2 wire joints and the scotch 33+ for the Y joints. I feel a lot more confident about the install now. Picked up a 45 watt weller with chisel tip. Thanks for the good advice on this.

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