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cmwade 
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Posted: January 06, 2010 at 8:13 AM / IP Logged  
UPS tracking site shows my new Python Responder One remote starter, Fortin EVO-CHR interface, and Fortin THARN-CHR2 wiring harness arriving today. So, a few questions.
From everything I can gather on the Fortin website, this should basically be a plug-n-play installation. T-harness to the ignition harness and EVO-CHR, data-to-data cable from the EVO-CHR to the RS unit, and an antenna to the RS unit. I'll need to add a pin switch to the hood as my truck doesn't have one, and I'm assuming possibly power and ground to the EVO-CHR and/or RS unit? Parking lights could be an issue but from what I've read I can get to the factory relay under the hood for that?
Has anyone used the Fortin EVO-CHR on this year (or similar), make and model of truck? This all just seems way too easy! The video on the Fortin website showing the install of an EVO-CHR on an '09 Dodge Journey (or maybe it was a caliber) looks amazingly simple. I didn't see the installer do anything but plug that T-harness in at the column and in about 4 minutes he had lock/unlock and remote start working. If it's this easy I'll be thoroughly impressed!
Any advice from the pros would be appreciated - I used to be an installer but that was over 15 years ago and this is the first RS I've done in awhile.
Thanks!
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It is that easy !! Plug and play for the module to control the SKIM and all convenience features and just hardwire power, ground, ignition and hood pin. Everything else is done via the EVO-CHR. With the harness and the module we can do a 2008-2009 Caravan in less than 20 minutes.
Jeff
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cmwade 
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Well maybe not quite as easy as I thought. The Python (DEI) RS unit D2D protocol (and connector) are not compatible with the Fortin EVO-CHR. This according to a Fortin tech.
So, I'm left with 3 options. Hardwire the EVO-CHR to the RS without using data-link, exchange EVO-CHR for the DEI CHALL interface, or exchange the Python RS for something compatible with the EVO-CHR. I'm leaning toward the latter as the retailer I purchased everything from sells Compustar and according to the Fortin tech that unit should be compatible. Furthermore, the DEI CHALL interface is hard to find other than on eBay.
Any other suggestions?
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try and get your hands on a adaptor cable, that will allow idatalink and fortin bypasses work with DEI products
cmwade 
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Is there such a thing? There's actually a 4-wire harness with the DEI unit with bare wires. If I knew which wire did which on each unit I could wire the data link between Fortin and DEI units that way.
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yes there is such a thing as the adaptor cables, I stock them at our store

cmwade 
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Any idea what the correct wiring would be on the D2D cable? DEI unit is 4-wire blue, orange, purple, pink. Fortin D2D cable is also 4-wire...white, blue, black, red. The plugs are different but I can just splice the 4 wires on the 2 different data-link harnesses if someone knows which colors match up with which.
cmwade 
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OK, having trouble with this install and I'm sure I've just got a wire or 2 not connected or connected improperly. Here's what I've done so far:
EVO-CHR connected to Immobilizer harness at column using THARN-CHR2 harness for a 2008 Dodge Ram. EVO-CHR programmed to vehicle.
Blue (-) status output from RS to blue (-) while running input on EVO-CHR
Violet/white tach input on RS to pink tach output on on EVO-CHR
Brown (+) brake shutdown to orange brake status on EVO-CHR
Grey hood pin shutdown on RS to hood pin
Black ground on RS to ground on vehicle
Both red 12V inputs on RS to constant 12V source on vehicle
Pink ignition output on RS to yellow ignition input on EVO-CHR
Purple starter output on RS to light blue/black starter input on EVO-CHR
Blue unlock on RS to PURPLE / white unlock on EVO-CHR
Green lock on RS to purple lock on EVO-CHR
EVO-CHR manual states no wiring to be done at 5-pin connector at steering column unless a starter wire is present. That should be a GREEN/ YELLOW wire and it's not there. Having said that, does that mean I shouldn't tap the PURPLE / brown wire in that same harness? They show the WHITE/ black MUX wire from the EVO-CHR going to the PURPLE / brown MUX wire in the column harness in the diagram but they show it with a very light gray dashed line and then state no connections in that harness if no starter wire is present.
Antenna is plugged in, so is the momentary pushbutton programming button.
Any help would be appreciated - I know I'm missing something here! Thanks!
I'm sure I'm missing something
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when you try and remote start the vehicle does it do anything?

Have you programmed tach yet on the remote starter??

does your car have a factory hoodpin??, if not then your grey from the EVO can't be hooked to the grey from the remote start cause it isn't there, disconenct this and see if you can start it

if you don't have a factory hoodpin run the grey into the engine compartment and put your own hoodpin switch in for safety shutdown 

try these first, if it still doesn't work let me know

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Posted: January 08, 2010 at 7:18 AM / IP Logged  

https://ifar.ca/download/1963/evo-chr_installation_guide.rev-i.pdf

Page 7 is the diagram that you should be using is your using the Python RS and no RS232.

WHITE/ BLACK from the EVO goes the the VIOLET/BROWN MUX wire at the ignition switch.

Make sure that you follow the programming instructions exactly.

Jeff
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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