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bomangani 
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Posted: January 08, 2010 at 10:44 AM / IP Logged  
Good Friday Morning,
Background: I have a Clifford 50.5 system installed in my 2007 Jeep Wrangler which had no factory power items (Door locks or windows). I just recently installed aftermarket door lock actuators in all 4 doors which included a 5 wire (slave) in the drivers door. I connected this to the alarm system using a DEI 451m straight plug in unit. Door locks operate with the alarm FOB no problem. Questions...
Should manually locking/unlocking the drivers door operate all locks? Mine does not. I thought this was the purpose of the 5 wire (slave).
When I start or turn off the engine, the doors will lock/unlock as they should about 80% of the time. Is there a fix to correct to 100%?
and last, can I set the FOB to just lock the doors without setting the alarm, maybe a 2 step or 2 buttom press on the FOB?
Thanks in advance
Brettman
howie ll 
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Posted: January 08, 2010 at 3:19 PM / IP Logged  
Take the brown, white and black in the driver's door actuator (motor), incidentally the 5 wire is the master, the others are slaves!
Take the black to a good ground, latch over that door and ground the white and brown in turn. The one that locks the doors, connect to the thin GREEN wire going from the alarm to the 451.
The one that unlocks the doors, take to the thin BLUE wire going from the alarm to the 451.
Using your door key in the driver's door should now lock and unlock the other doors.
As a safety factor, on the alarm side of those wires I'd wire in on the green and blue a diode to each, 1N4004 from Radio Shack bands towards the alarm.
Now for the ignition lock. It may be that you had a door open without realising it? That or a faulty door switch.
Never had a failure in over 16 years of installing that product.
bomangani 
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Posted: January 08, 2010 at 4:00 PM / IP Logged  
Howie II - Thanks for the response and the correction on slave vs master. I will go back and verify/correct any wiring over this weekend. Now that you mention the possibility of a faulty door switch, I have noticed that there are times (many times actually) when I set the alarm, I get a "door ajar" notification on my FOB so this may be the issue.
Just to verify what you wrote
"Take the black to a good ground, latch over that door and ground the white and brown in turn."   what do you mean by "latch over that door and ground the white and brown in turn" I apologize up front as I am not an electrician or EE and want to be absolutely sure of what you are stating.
Thanks again
Brettman
howie ll 
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Posted: January 08, 2010 at 5:20 PM / IP Logged  
On some cars, mainly European, as a safety measure, you can't push down on the lock push unless the door is shut. I'm assuming your electrics are on the driver's side, thus to make everything work you will have the driver's door open.
On the lock mechanism on the driver's door is a catch that moves when you shut the door and latches on to the striker. Push this over, otherwise the testing may not work.

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