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jlaustin 
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Posted: February 14, 2010 at 8:48 AM / IP Logged  

I have an Ultra Start G11-XR remote starter kit and would like to use it on a portable RV generator (the genset has a 12v electrical system and electric start).  I "think" I've pretty much figured out how to install it, but apparently, the programmable run-time optons are either 4, 15, or 45 minutes and then the remote starter shuts down the engine.  Obviously, unlike a car, I would rather have the generator continue to run until I choose to shut it down!

There is a feature that lets you extend the run-time while the engine is running, but all that does is reset the run-time for another 4, 15, or 45 minutes.  Obviously, this would be a nuisance to have to "watch the clock" to keep it running for several hours!

I can't find any programmng option to allow unlimited run-time.  Can anyone think of a way to wire a relay (the kit does accomodate auxillary relays and obviously the door lock relays will not be needed elsewhere!), etc., that will disable the remote starter killing the engine after 4, 15 or 45 minutes?  I would still like to have the ability to kill the engine from the remote, however, which it currently is able to do.

By the way, this generator is outside the RV and has a temp overheat protection sensor, so I think it will be a pretty safe installation.

Any ideas ?

Regards,

John

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Posted: February 14, 2010 at 9:23 AM / IP Logged  
Assuming you are not depending on the remtoe start unit for shut down ever it would be fairly easy to latch whatever relays are required to keep the generator running.  I'm guessing there is just an "ignition" wire that needs to stay energized?
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KPierson wrote:
Assuming you are not depending on the remtoe start unit for shut down ever it would be fairly easy to latch whatever relays are required to keep the generator running.  I'm guessing there is just an "ignition" wire that needs to stay energized?

I think you are correct - I need to keep the ignition energized.  But, I would like to keep the remote's ability to kill the engine.

How about using the door lock/unlock relays to energize another "ignition" feed independent of the remote starter's feed?  That way, you could latch on a relay to keep the ignition "on" and it wouldn't matter when the remote starter cut its ignition circuit.  Then, you could kill the engine manually with the "unlock" button? Would that work?

Regards,

John

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I know you already bought the Ultra, but I remember once seeing a Crimestopper unit that offered "infinity" runtime..... if you programmed this feature on, the remote start would stay on continuously until you turn it off.
jlaustin 
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I found this diagram in the Relays/Special Applications section of the site:

disable remote starter cut off time? -- posted image.

This would seem ideal in that I could use a (-) pulse from the door "lock" button on the remote starter to latch the circuit "on".  The diagram mentioned another relay could be added, triggered by a (-) pulse, to turn the circuit "off".  That would be great, too, since I could use the "unlock" button on the remote for that and it would be intuitive that you are "locking" the generator "on" and "unlocking" it to turn it "off". (I know relays could be wired to use the same pulse for on and off, but I like this one better since it uses two different buttons on the remote)

Can someone explain how to wire in the other relay, triggered by a (-) pulse, to turn the circuit "off"?

Regards,

John

jlaustin 
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Posted: February 15, 2010 at 4:45 PM / IP Logged  

I thought about my problem a little further ... the remote module turns the ignition "on" for up to 45 minutes and then shuts down (can't be programmed any longer - no "infinite run" option).  Since I DO get 12v+ initially for the ignition, I could use that to turn a circuit on to keep the ignition energized after the remote module turns "off".  (In other words, this can happen passively and I don't have to use a trigger to turn the circuit on).  Then I could use a neg. pulse to trigger the ignition circuit "off" whenever I want to.  Here's what I came up with:

disable remote starter cut off time? -- posted image.

Any one see any problems with this circuit?  The remote module energizes the relay and it stays "on" until the neg pulse breaks the ground and kills the ignition.  I can use one of the door lock neg pulses on the remote for this.

Any advice/comments appreciated!

Regards,

John


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