viper 5901 wiring problems, 2000 civic si

I've installed a Viper 791xv and a 5900 into a Civic before, but this one is giving me some problems. I understood how the old systems worked, but they've changed quite a few things. I'm pretty sure it's overly complicated and I'll be removing a lot of wires. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this so I can finish the install and go home before school starts again. I'll break down the list so y'all can tell me where I'm wrong. Underlined is what I think I should remove, Bold is what I don't know what to do with, and Italic is a random question. H1 HARNESS H1/1__RED / White______200mA Aux/Trunk Output_______________Left for Actuator at a later date H1/2__Red___________12VDC Constant Input__________________Grey Output from Backup Battery H1/3__Brown_________Siren Output__________________________Red Wire on Siren H1/4__WHITE/ Brown____Parking Isolation Wire (87a Onboard Relay) H1/5__Black__________Chassis Ground________________________Obvious H1/6__Violet__________(+) Door Trigger Input H1/7__Blue___________Trunk Pin/Instant Trigger Input___________Obvious H1/8__Green__________(-) Door Trigger Input__________________Obvious H1/9__BLACK/ White_____200mA Dome Light Supervision Output_____Obvious H1/10_WHITE/ Blue______Remote Start/Turbo Timer Activation Output H1/11_White__________Parking Light Output____________________Obvious H1/12_Orange_________500mA Ground When Armed Output_______Left for Window Module at a later date H2 HARNESS H2/1__GREEN/ Black_____200mA OEM Alarm Disarm Output H2/2__ORANGE / Black____200mA Aux 4 Output H2/3__GREEN / WHITE_____200mA OEM Alarm Arm Output H2/4__Violet/Black_____200mA Aux 2 Output H2/5__WHITE/ Black_____200mA Aux 3 Output H2/6__WHITE/ Violet_____200mA Aux 1 Output________Left for Window Module at a later date H2/7__Grey/Black______Diesel Wait To Start Input H2/8__BROWN / Black_____200mA Horn Honk Output H2/9__Violet/White_____Tachometer Input______________________Obvious H2/10_Dark Blue_______200mA Status Output___________________Wire on Clutch Pedal H2/11_Pink/White______200mA Flex Relay Control Output H2/12_Orange_________200mA Accessory Output H2/13_Purple__________200mA Starter Output H2/14_Pink____________200mA Ignition 1 Output H2/15_Grey___________Hood Pin Input________________________Obvious H2/16_Blue/White______200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger Output___Obvious H2/17_Brown__________Brake Shutdown Input__________________Obvious H2/18_BLACK/ White_____Neutral Safety Input____________________Obvious H3 HARNESS H3/1__Pink___________Ignition 1 Input/Output__________________Ignition Wire H3/2__RED / White______Flex Relay H3/3__Orange_________Accessory Output______________________Climate Control H3/4__Violet__________Starter Output (Car Side)________________Starter Wire Car Side H3/5__Green__________Starter Input (Key Side)_________________Starter Wire Key Side H3/6__Red____________Ignition 1 Input H3/7__Pink/White______(30) Flex Relay Output H3/8__Pink/Black______(87a) Flex Relay Input H3/9__RED / Black_______Accessory/Starter Relay Input So obviously, the flex relay thing is throwing me off. I'm sure the remote start harness needs more wires hooked up...just not sure where. As for the random questions...I plan on installing a 530t and an actuator for the trunk later on...are the wires I need labeled properly for this to happen? Also, do I need any of the Aux outputs besides 1 for the window module? I don't plan on adding anything other than the 530t and trunk pop. And finally, what do I connect the Blue (-) Output on the Backup Battery to? As far as I can tell, this alarm does not have an Instant Trigger Input. Also, does anyone know why they changed the connectors on this model? The alarm does not match the Installation Manual I have...the connectors are different but all the wires are there except the switch from a priority lock option to another Aux. Just another thing throwing me off on this. Thanks in advance for any help. I wasn't expecting any problems from this and it looks like I was wrong :P

Have you also considered transponder by-pass if fitted, also factory alarm disable also if fitted? Where's Tedmond? The flex circuit is enabled by wiring it up and programming it if you have more than 1 ACC, Ign. or starter wire. I believe there's a second ignition on that vehicle, also power up ALL the fused wires. For the trunk release you will need an aux + a relay fused at 15amps, the GWA wire and an aux for the 530t. To enable one touch at the passenger side as well as drivers, go directly to the motor wires at both windows.

Still alive and well Howard. I have just been busy with school. Did i mention thanks again? ahah

H1 HARNESS

H1/4__WHITE/ Brown____Parking Isolation Wire (87a Onboard Relay)  - DONT NEEDH1/6__Violet__________(+) Door Trigger Input - DONT NEEDH1/10_WHITE/ Blue______Remote Start/Turbo Timer Activation Output - DONT NEEDH2 HARNESS H2/1__GREEN/ Black_____200mA OEM Alarm Disarm Output - DONT NEED, but you need to disarm the factory alarm. Read below.**H2/3__GREEN / WHITE_____200mA OEM Alarm Arm Output - DONT NEEDH2/7__Grey/Black______Diesel Wait To Start Input - DONT NEEDH2/8__BROWN / Black_____200mA Horn Honk Output  - DONT NEED H2/10_Dark Blue_______200mA Status Output - WRONG, do not connect this to the clutch pedal. look at 200ma starter output.H2/11_Pink/White______200mA Flex Relay Control Output - dont needH2/12_Orange_________200mA Accessory Output - dont needH2/13_Purple__________200mA Starter Output -Wire this to the clutch relay. The wire you want is  BLACK/ Red (-). sending a negative to this will start. No need to connect the positive start wire to the main ignition harness.H2/14_Pink____________200mA Ignition 1 Output - not needed** there is a yellow wire at the factory alarm connector which is green towards the right of the steering collumn. Use a relay and interrupt this wire in order to remote start.cut the yellow wire and wir ewitha  relay like so86 - status output from rs (diode isolate, since you have a bypass as well)86 - constant 12vcut the yellow wire87a - yellow wire away from plug30 - yellow wire going into the plug.

H3 HARNESS

H3/1__Pink___________Ignition 1 Input/Output__________________Ignition Wire H3/2__RED / White______Flex Relay -  DONT NEED

H3/3__Orange_________Accessory Output______________________Climate Control H3/4__Violet__________Starter Output (Car Side)________________Starter Wire Car Side H3/5__Green__________Starter Input (Key Side)_________________Starter Wire Key Side H3/6__Red____________Ignition 1 Input - connect to constant 12vH3/7__Pink/White______(30) Flex Relay Output - dont needH3/8__Pink/Black______(87a) Flex Relay Input - dont needH3/9__RED / Black_______Accessory/Starter Relay Input - to constant 12v

the trunk release is a negative trigger if you have electronic trunk release. 

Ted

2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School

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H1 HARNESS H1/1__RED / White______200mA Aux/Trunk Output_______________Left for Actuator at a later date H1/2__Red___________12VDC Constant Input__________________Grey Output from Backup Battery H1/3__Brown_________Siren Output__________________________Red Wire on Siren H1/4__WHITE/ Brown____Parking Isolation Wire (87a Onboard Relay) H1/5__Black__________Chassis Ground________________________Obvious H1/6__Violet__________(+) Door Trigger Input H1/7__Blue___________Trunk Pin/Instant Trigger Input___________Obvious H1/8__Green__________(-) Door Trigger Input__________________Obvious H1/9__BLACK/ White_____200mA Dome Light Supervision Output_____Obvious H1/10_WHITE/ Blue______Remote Start/Turbo Timer Activation Output H1/11_White__________Parking Light Output____________________Obvious H1/12_Orange_________500mA Ground When Armed Output_______Left for Window Module at a later date H2 HARNESS H2/1__GREEN/ Black_____200mA OEM Alarm Disarm Output H2/2__ORANGE / Black____200mA Aux 4 Output________Left but unused H2/3__GREEN / WHITE_____200mA OEM Alarm Arm Output H2/4__Violet/Black_____200mA Aux 2 Output________Left but unused H2/5__WHITE/ Black_____200mA Aux 3 Output________Left but unused H2/6__WHITE/ Violet_____200mA Aux 1 Output________Left for Window Module at a later date H2/7__Grey/Black______Diesel Wait To Start Input H2/8__BROWN / Black_____200mA Horn Honk Output H2/9__Violet/White_____Tachometer Input______________________Obvious H2/10_Dark Blue_______200mA Status Output H2/11_Pink/White______200mA Flex Relay Control Output H2/12_Orange_________200mA Accessory Output H2/13_Purple__________200mA Starter Output H2/14_Pink____________200mA Ignition 1 Output H2/15_Grey___________Hood Pin Input________________________Obvious H2/16_Blue/White______200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger Output H2/17_Brown__________Brake Shutdown Input__________________Obvious H2/18_BLACK/ White_____Neutral Safety Input____________________Obvious H3 HARNESS H3/1__Pink___________Ignition 1 Input/Output__________________Ignition Wire H3/2__RED / White______Flex Relay Input H3/3__Orange_________Accessory Output______________________Climate Control H3/4__Violet__________Starter Output (Car Side)________________Starter Wire Car Side H3/5__Green__________Starter Input (Key Side)_________________Starter Wire Key Side H3/6__Red____________Ignition 1 Input_______________________12v Constant H3/7__Pink/White______(30) Flex Relay Output H3/8__Pink/Black______(87a) Flex Relay Input H3/9__RED / Black_______Accessory/Starter Relay Input____________12v Constant Bold means I removed it. This is how I wired everything up. Everything seems to be working except the remote start. It tries to turn over but immediately sets off the alarm. Which leads me to... I posted this on another forum (Here's the link...), and was told to wire in a relay to keep the backup battery from setting off the alarm during remote start. Is this what you're talking about Tedmond?

tedmond wrote: ** there is a yellow wire at the factory alarm connector which is green towards the right of the steering collumn. Use a relay and interrupt this wire in order to remote start. cut the yellow wire and wir ewitha  relay like so 86 - status output from rs (diode isolate, since you have a bypass as well) 86 - constant 12v cut the yellow wire 87a - yellow wire away from plug 30 - yellow wire going into the plug.

I appreciate the help...you've saved me so far...now I just need to finish this up by tomorrow night so I can make the 4 hour drive back home for school on Monday.     Thanks again, Will

I don't have a factory alarm, btw. I have the green connector to the right of the steering column...but there's never been anything connected to it.

which alarm is it setting off? the viper or the cars alarm with horn honks?

if its the horn honk, use the relay and interrupt that wire i mentioned. if its the viper, the unit isnt disarming to remote start so something is wrong there.

diagnostics, to narrow down a problem, it can be transponder or start wires are wrong.

1) place key in ign and leave it to off, if it remote starts, its a bypass issue

2) if key is in ign and doesnt rs, try it again but hold in your clutch this time, this is a clutch bypass issue.

Ted

2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School

Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries

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