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2009 nissan gt-r, clifford 50.7x wiring


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zekedmangina 
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Posted: May 18, 2010 at 12:25 PM / IP Logged  
Hi. I'm in the midst of installing a Clifford 50.7x utilizing the ADS-AL-CA64 on a 2009 Nissan GT-R. I do NOT plan on utilizing the remote start features. Couple of questions:
1) Do I need to connect the "start button output - green", "ORANGE / white - e-brake output", or "orange - brake pedal status output" wires for the ADS-AL if I do not use remote start?
2) "blue/white - Ground when running" wire of the ADS connects to the 50.7x's RS status blue wire output, right?
3) If I need a ground when the siren goes off, where I can grab that from? I'm connecting the unit to a cellular/GPS tracking device that will notify me when the alarm goes off, but it needs a ground signal. Is the only way to do this by utilizing the Clifford Brown siren (+) output to power a relay in order to give me the ground, or is there someplace simple that I can get this from without using a relay?
4) Do I need to connect the Clifford "H3 pink ignition 1 output/ignition sense" and "neutral safety switch" inputs if I don't use the remote start features?
5) The Clifford "White parking light - output 30" connects TO relay terminal 86, right? (See page 22 of 33 for install guide type 4- wiring diagram - 2 of 3).
6) I purchased the ADS-AL pre-flashed. How can I verify that it has been flashed correctly?
Thanks for any help!
blanx218 
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Posted: May 18, 2010 at 1:04 PM / IP Logged  

if you arent using the 50.7 for remote start send the idatalink module back and save some cash. everything it will give you outside of remote start is located at the BCM in the passenger kick panel. (door/trunk triggers, lock, unlock, trunk release, etc.)

you will need to connect the pink IGN1. thats how the alarm resets if it is triggered. without connecting this wire you will always hear 4 chirps while unlocking and see a trigger indicator on the screen telling you why it went off.

as far as the ground to indicate the alarm went off using the siren wire to trigger a relay is the easiest way.

no need to use the status output for anything since you're not using remote start.

zekedmangina 
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Posted: June 01, 2010 at 9:44 PM / IP Logged  

Thanks for the advice.  I kept the ADS-AL anyways in case I plan on doing the remote start sometime in the future.  The ADS-AL CA made the install very easy and everything went smoothly.  The only thing that didn't really work is the parking lights.  The lights don't flash when the siren goes off.  Can you guys double check my connections for the lights?

Here's what I did... I used a relay per the iDatalink instructions as follows:

BCM M122 black connector pin 108 (red wire) ---> SPDT relay terminal 87

BCM M123 green connector pin 142 (orange wire) --->  SPDT relay terminal 30
ground --> SPDT relay terminal 85
Clifford 50.7x white parking light output 30 --> SPDT relay terminal 86

Parking light light flash fuse jumper set to (+) on the Clifford unit.

zekedmangina 
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Posted: June 03, 2010 at 9:35 AM / IP Logged  

I have a 2009 Nissan GT-R using a Clifford 50.7x alarm with idatalink ADS-AL CA bypass and an aftermarket GPS paging system.  I'm trying to get a ground signal when my alarm goes off.  I have a GPS tracking/paging device that I'm trying to trigger when the alarm goes off.

First, I tried connecting to the BROWN / black horn honk (-) output of the Clifford, but that didn't work for some reason. 

Then, I tried using a relay powered by the alarm siren like this: 

relay 30 --> ground
relay 86 --> brown siren (+) output from alarm
relay 85 --> red siren
relay 87 --> GPS ground sensing wire

This worked just fine to trigger the GPS pager, but it unfortunately decreased the sound output of the siren by half.

Any suggestions for a good ground signal? Or, I was thinking about just using two SPDT relays off of the brown siren (+) output.  This should theoretically keep the siren output at the correct level and give me the ground signal I need for the GPS, right? 

1st relay 30 --> ground

1st relay 86 <-- brown siren (+) output from alarm
1st relay 85 --> 2nd SPST relay 86
1st relay 87 <-- GPS ground sensing wire

2nd relay 30 --> red siren out

2nd relay 86 <-- 1st relay 85
2nd relay 85 --> GROUND
2nd relay 87 <-- +12v constant

If I use two SPST relays, do I need to do anything in terms of making sure the load on the siren circuit isn't overstressing the system since I will be connecting 2nd relay 85 to ground?  Like, do I need to check the resistance of the siren and then make sure the same resistance is being seen by the alarm unit through the 2 relays?

tedmond 
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Posted: June 03, 2010 at 3:34 PM / IP Logged  
very nice but expensive car. why not have a certified shop to install it? just curious.
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zekedmangina 
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Posted: June 03, 2010 at 9:53 PM / IP Logged  
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