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ishoud 
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Posted: December 11, 2010 at 9:44 PM / IP Logged  
I am installing a Viper 5501 remote start unit in my 2010 F-150. I wired everything on the remote start unit first and it works flawlessly as it should as long as I keep a key in the ignition for the PATS. I left the programing of the module to the last. And well its not working at all. I am the first owner of the truck and have the 2 keys from the factory. I have tried the programing mode every way I could think of went over the wiring loads of times. Tired changing the ignition wire to +12 and swapping the RX and TX lines with still no luck. Also tried it with and with out the D2D hook up. I have done this job before on a 2004 with success.
So I am thinking I may need to update the firm ware? It says Hardware v2 and Software V4.04 is there anyway of checking if this will work with my truck? I have no way of flashing the unit either.
Another thing I am thinking but I am quite sure isn't it but could the keys be clones there for not 2 different keys?
Any Help would be great TIA
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Posted: December 11, 2010 at 10:02 PM / IP Logged  
Could be an 80 kit key.  Is there a SA or HA stamped on the key blade?  
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ishoud 
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Posted: December 11, 2010 at 10:14 PM / IP Logged  
It is a SA "mykey"
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Posted: December 12, 2010 at 5:35 AM / IP Logged  

Here is some info from iDatalink on the new Ford 80 Bit keys :  http://12voltdata.com/viewtopic.php?f=187&t=2877

I got lucky on the 2010 F150 I did.  It was a standard 40 bit key...    

I am not sure about DEI or Fortin, but the last I heard if it was an 80 Bit key and the truck was an 80 bit vehicle, then it was a "key in the box" solution.  There are some aftermarket sources for 80 Bit Ford keys.  You could buy a blank and program it to the truck and place it in the box, uncut.  They program just like the 40 Bit keys.

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ishoud 
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Posted: December 12, 2010 at 8:37 AM / IP Logged  
Well that explains everything. I wish the Xpress Kit would at least make a note of this.
Thanks for the Help!
ishoud 
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Posted: December 12, 2010 at 8:50 AM / IP Logged  
So I guess its the DEI 556UW That I am going to need?
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Posted: December 12, 2010 at 10:18 PM / IP Logged  
I would give DEI a call to verify the 80 Bit issue with the PKALL.  I use and am more familiar with iDatalink products.  The 556UW will work but you lose a key.
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Congratulations on the gold star Kreg!

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