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dustins83 
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Posted: December 23, 2011 at 11:31 AM / IP Logged  

I have installed an Avital 4003 in my 2009 Maxima. I wired the starter output to trigger the brake pedal and the - starter output (on the satellite harness) to push the start button. The system works properly. I cant however get the system into program mode. I want to program it to take 3 pulses to activate, currently it is one.

Here are some possible issues: I payed for an Avital 4003L, the box used to say 4113 and it has a 4003L sticker over it. The unit itself says 4X03. The manual that came with it is a manual for a 4113. The 4113 has remotes that come with it, I did not get any remotes and I am using the factory remotes. I have used the 4003L and 4113 install guides to try and get into program mode. Nothing works. I have never seen the LED turn on at all, even when doing a remote start. Please help, I have everything working but this and I am banging my head into a wall.

Also do to the install on the IKey system (ant not using an XPresskit) I knew that once the car was remote started it would not be able to kill its self. I did not need to wire accesory outputs, I also did not wire door lock or unlock because I dont want the system controling that. As I said everything works as I thought it would according to how I installed it, but I cant program. Thanks

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I wonder if the main unit has to see an acc input when you turn the key on then off to get it in program mode.. I do a ton of 4103s and they always program!!!!!
 
dustins83 
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I thought that, but if you look in the book there is no ACC input that I see. The only power inputs are the 2 12V batt source. The ignition and acc are outputs. How would the system know that your turning the key on though? I have looked at the book a million times and cant figure out where it gets finds out your turning the key on.

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I believe the pink ingition wire acts as an input a well as an output
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dustins83 
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Yeah youre right. The manual says output, but it is an input too. Since I dont needed it I temporarily hooked the orange and pink wires to the acc 12v socket and it went through. Thanks guys for making me think about that. Love this forum, you guys are great!
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Good to hear you got it working
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Hello All,
I have been working on an Avital 4003 remote start with a PL DATA III (crime stopper) bypass module. I must be missing a few wires because nothing happens when I press the lock button or unlock button 3 times (or more).
It seems like the Avital unit is not getting the 'signal' to 'activate' or start the truck.
Here is a list of what I have connected:
Primary Harness (H1)
H1/1 - Factory Alarm Disarm (Lt. Green / Blk) -> Factory Alarm Disarm (Lt. Green - from purple plug at BCM)
H1/2 - NA (Factory Alarm Rearm)
H1/3 - NA (Ignition out - to alarm)
H1/4 - NA (Activation Input)
H1/5 - NA (Ground When Locked)
H1/6 - Horn Output (Brown) -> Horn Trigger (Blk - from Brown plug at BCM)
H1/7 - NA (Trunk Release)
H1/8 - Ground (Blk) -> Ground (Kick panel)
H1/9 - Light Flash (Wht) -> Parking Lights (Brown - from Blue plug at BCM)
4-pin satellite harness
1 - Status output (blue) -> In Running (blue - bypass module)
2 - NA (accessory output)
3 - NA (Starter Output)
4 - NA (Ignition Output)
Heavy Gauge Harness
1 - Output to Ignition (pink) -> Ignition Wire (Pink - Ignition harness)
2 - Output to Starter (purple) -> Starter Wire (Yellow - Ignition harness)
3 - Output to Accessory (Orange) -> Accessory Wire (orange - Ignition harness)
4 - 30A High current 12v Input (Red) -> 12v constant wire (red - ignition harness)
5 - Programmable output for IGNITION (wht) -> Second Ignition wire (wht - ignition harness)
6 - 30A High current 12v Input (Red) -> 12v constant wire (red - ignition harness)
Door Lock Harness
1 - NA (Unlock Output)
2 - NA (not used)
3 - NA (Lock Output)
Remote Start Harness (H2)
H2/1 - NA (Neutral Safety Switch - (Blk/Wht))
H2/2 - Tachometer Input (Violet / Wht) -> Not yet connected but I will.
H2/3 - Brake Switch Shutdown (Brown) -> Brake Wire (wht - large black junction box above BCM)
H2/4 - NA (Hood Pin Switch - Gray)
H2/5 - NA (200mA 2nd status/rear defogger - blue/wht)
PL DATA III (bypass module)
Black (from unit) -> ORANGE / Black from ignition
Yellow - Data Out (from unit) -> Yellow from ignition
White - 2 d ignition 12v out (from unit) -> NA
Pink - Mane ignition 12v in (from unit) -> Output to Ignition (pink) from the heavy gauge harness
Purple - Starter In+ (use for passlock I and mode 2 only) - NA
Brown - Bulb Test Out- (Use for passlock I only) - NA
Blue - in running-    -> Status Output (blue from 4-pin satellite harness)
Green - Data in) use for mode 2 only -> NA
Installed as 'MODE1 PasslockII'
Potentiometer has been adjusted
Mahalo Nui Loa!
(Thank you in advance for all of your help)

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