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defivfab 
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Posted: April 24, 2012 at 4:10 PM / IP Logged  

hi,i have a few quick questions in reference to the destinations of certain auxillary/shutdown/trigger(24pin) harness wires

H2/1-pimk/white-ignition flex relay control output-i have my flex relay configured to run the ign 2 source on the car(default module setting)is this wire necessary to hook up and if so,where to?

H2/4 GREEN/ black and H2/24 green white-these are oem alarm disarm/arm outputs-are these necessary to hook up to the factory anti theft,and if so where exactly?

H2/10 pink ignition 1 output-this is a 200mA switch to ground-what is this for,does it need to be wired in?

H2/18 violet / YELLOW starter output-this is another 200mA switch to ground-what is this for,does it need to be wired in?

H2/21 WHITE/ blue remote start/turbo timer activation input(-)-i plan on using both of these features,am i correct in assuming that i need to run this wire to ground to enable both of these features,or is it something else?

and lastly,i see that the factory door switches operate by switching grounds,the 5904 is looking for a positive trigger,so should i just invert polarity via relay?i also noticed somewhere online that the dome light supervision(-) should be run to the door switch- is that sufficient,or should i run another inversion relay from the dome light switched power source?thanks in advance!

howie ll 
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Posted: April 25, 2012 at 4:46 PM / IP Logged  
From the questions you're asking could I suggest two things?
Either re-read the installation manual or pay a pro to install it?
H2/1 Don't use.
H2/4 and H2/24. The lock and unlock wires should control a factory alarm if present, I doubt if there is one. How to test, wind down a window, lock the car and wait 1 minute. reach in and open that door. If a sounder triggers you have a factory alarm.
H2/10 Don't use.
H2/18 Don't use.
H2/21 only one or the other, why do you need remote start activation, you already have 2 remotes. Also grounding will likely fry the unit, RTFM.
It isn't looking for a POS trigger (Violet wire) you also have green NEG door trigger input H2/6.
You will need a relay for dome light supervision.
defivfab 
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Posted: April 25, 2012 at 8:27 PM / IP Logged  
thanks for the clarification,i own a fabrication shop specializing in toyota supras,i wire and tune full engine management systems,so taking it to "the pros" seems a little silly.all i recieved with the alarm(which i obviously dont mess with on a daily basis)is an abbreviated version aka the "quick reference install guide".considering the rarity of the situation of even being asked to install an alarm(the customer requested that it be tucked away during a rollcage install),buying into viper to become a registered dealer before they release support is a little pointless...considering how much time ive wasted trying to scrape together what little info is available to an "unregistered installer" i regret agreeing to installing it in the first place.the alarm that was" professionally" installed previously  was absolutely butchered,the factory dash harness (now unavailable from toyota) had to be replaced w a unit from a junk car,everything was scotchlocked or wire twisted and loosely taped.i would absolutely love to find a trustworthy install shop in my area that would perform the task at hand on a level of quality that matched everything else that was done on the car and id gladly subcontract this and future a/v work the work(which is now far beyond being remotely profitable).ive personally never seen anything up to "par" as far as alarms go in my 15 years of building cars/bikes.im getting a little carried away....regardless howie,thanks
howie ll 
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Posted: April 26, 2012 at 2:48 AM / IP Logged  
OK, I'll post the install guide in the next few minutes + the 94 Supra install guide, look in the Manuals/Download section, under Viper 5904 and 94 Supra.
If this was the last shape, do you have any idea what g/condition vehicles are fetching in the UK?
I've lusted after one for years.
Done everything from alarm/RS + window lift and mirror fold, audio, etc.love em.
Just remember to thoroughly plug back the heater and AC control unit plugs, they feel mated when they aren't!
But you probably know that trick already!
howie ll 
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Posted: April 26, 2012 at 3:09 AM / IP Logged  
Both done.
defivfab 
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Posted: April 26, 2012 at 10:26 AM / IP Logged  

i know that even still after all these years its almost impossible to find a clean,unmolested 6spd for under $20kUSD,im unsure what conversion rate is these days,but id be highly suspicious of anything under that price,keep in mind that a car that costs around that will likely have around 100k miles,to say that these things hold their value is an understatement.two huge bits of advice when trying to aquire a mkiv supra-avoid automatic transmissions and non turbo with turbo conversions(NA-T) variants of the car at all costs(unless of course youll be happy with a NA/5spd and intend to leave it that way),both will surely leave you penniless and broken hearted if you plan on increasing the power output,even mildly.for my money,nothing i can think of can outperform a modified tt/6spd dollar for dollar(or pound for pound in your case),wisely spent you can straight out embarass 95% of the sports/supercars you would encounter for a fraction of the cost.also,being a rhd nation,you have access to a much finer and wider array of variants and a wider available year range than we do on this side of the pond.should you ever opt to purchase one or need any advice,feel free to drop me an email at defivfab@gmail.com.  again, howie,thank you!!

howie ll 
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Posted: April 26, 2012 at 11:40 AM / IP Logged  
Thank you sir.

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