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cj773 
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Location: Illinois, United States
Posted: December 28, 2012 at 6:33 PM / IP Logged  
Hey I'm Chris it's my first time posting here and would appreciate it if any of you can spare a few minutes to answer some of my questions regarding a remote starter installation on a 2008 Ford Focus SE (Auto Trans).
I'm going to be installing an Avital (4103) one way remote start with a D2D compatible bypass (XpressKit PKALL).
First off, I understand that in DC circuits polarity does matter. In the installation manual it has for example:
Primary Harness (H1)
H1/1 Light GREEN/ Black (-) Factory Alarm Disarm
It seems like I only need to reverse the polarity with a relay if I want to use the door locks/trunk which I do not care about. I simply want the remote start button to work on the remote. I do have a color chart from another website:
Wire/Function      Colour      Location/Description      Polarity
PASSIVE ANTI-THEFT      YES      TRANSPONDER       SEE NOTES
12 VOLTS      Blue/red      Ignition switch harness       +
IGNITION      BROWN / yellow      Ignition switch harness       +
ACCESSORY      Violet/green      Ignition switch harness       +
STARTER      Blue/white      Ignition switch harness       +
KEY SENSE      Blue/gray      Ignition switch harness       +
TACH SIGNAL      Yellow/orange      At PCM near battery       AC
LOCK      Yellow/gray      In harness in driver kick panel       -
May also be Light Blue/Light Green (-) in driver's kick panel.
UNLOCK      Violet/brown      In harness in driver kick panel       -
May also be Yellow/Violet (-) in driver's kick panel.
DISARM      Violet/brown      In harness in driver kick panel       -
DRIVER LOCK MOTOR      Blue/green      In harness in driver kick panel       REV POL
DRIVER UNLOCK MOTOR      Gray/brown      In harness in driver kick panel       REV POL
DOMELIGHT / ALL DOORS      Gray/violet      In harness in driver kick panel       +
HOODPIN      Blue/orange      At smart junction box under driver dash       -
TRUNK PIN      YELLOW /GREEN      In harness in driver kick panel       -
TRUNK RELEASE      Light Blue      Driver's kick panel       +
Can use OEM remote to test.
BRAKE SWITCH      Violet/white      At switch above brake pedal       +
PARKING LIGHTS      Violet/white      At harness in driver's kick panel       +
HORN      Blue/white      Steering column harness       -
The polarity is noted for each wire. There are five harnesses, Primary (H1), 4-pin Satellite (Do I even need this hooked up?), Heavy Gauge Relay, Door Lock Harness (3-pin), Remote Start Harness (H2).
This is how I would hook it up as of now, can anyone go through this and let me know what I do not even use. As of now I am more so confused by the Input/Output
Primary Harness (H1) Wiring Diagram:
H1/1 Light GREEN/ Black ( - Factory Alarm Disarm) I would connect to Violet/Brown in the kick panel
H1/2 GREEN / WHITE (- Factory Rearm) I dont see a rearm wire in the chart, the car does not have a factory alarm. The remote simply locks the door and beeps the horn. Should I even use H1/1-3?
H1/3 Yellow (+ Ignition Out [To alarm]) ??
H1/4 WHITE/ Blue (- Activation Input) ???
H1/5 Orange (- Ground when locked) ???
H1/6 Brown (- Horn Output)   Blue/White in Steering Column Harness
H1/7 RED / White (- Trunk Release Output) Do not need this, leave not connected to anything?
H1/8 Black (Ground) To a ground on the car, bolt on metal frame
H1/9 White (+/- Light flash) ??? Is this so the running lights come on when the car is running??
4-Pin Satellite Harness Diagram: What do I use this for?
1 Blue (- Status Output) ??
2 Orange (- Accessory Output) Violet/Green Ignition Switch Harness but has + Polarity???
3 Purple (- Starter Output) Blue/White ignition switch harness but has + polarity??
4 Pink (- Ignition Output) BROWN / Yellow ignition switch harness but has + polarity??
Heavy Gauge Relay Wiring Diagram:
1 Pink (+ Output to ignition circuit) BROWN / Yellow in ignition harness
2 Purple (+ Output to starter circuit) Blue/White in Ignition Harness
3 Orange (+ Output to accessory circuit) Violet/Green Ignition Harness
4 Red (+ 30A high current 12 input) Blue/Red Ignition Switch - Hook up the same as 6??
5 Pink/White (+ Programmable Output for accessory or igntion) ???
6 Red (+ 30A High Current 12V Input) Blue/Red Ignition Switch
Door Lock harness: I do not care if the door locks work or not on the remote, So I just do not use this harness?
1 Blue (- Unlock output)
2 Not used
3 Green (- Lock output)
Remote Start Harness H2 Wiring Diagram:
H2/1 BLACK/ White (- Neutral Safety Switch Input) Would I ground both of these wires to bypass?
H2/2 Violet/White (Tachometer Input Wire) Yellow/Orange at PCM Near battery --- I read somewhere that with the bypass I do not need to use a tach wire because it checks the voltage 1000x a second or something??
H2/3 brown (+ Brake Switch Shutdown Wire) Violet/White at brake switch
H2/4 Gray (- Hood Pinswitch Shutdown Wire) I do not want to use, do I ground this wire?
H2/5 Blue/White (- 200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger Output) Dont need rear defogger, do not hook up?
On the bypass there are only two harnesses as listed on the first page of the manual:
D2D (4pin) I assume this is hooked up to the D2D port on the remote start, but how exactly does this save any time, what does it do?
PURPLE / White -> Data 1
Yellow/Black -> Data 2
Blue/White -> (- While Running Status) It looks like it points to the remote?? What is this?
Green -> Key Sense
Pink -> Ignition
Black -> Ground
For this harness under the connection instructions for the Ford Focus it has a picture of the ignition barrel with a back view of a 4pin connector
[4 3 2 1]
Pin #1 Ignition +12v (N.C.)
Pin #2 Ground (N.C.)
Pin #3 TX (Data)
Pin #4 RX (Data)
Is this what is installed on the ignition switch and what I splice into?
It now shows the harness as:
PURPLE / White -> Rx (Data In) Hook up to RX wire going to Pin #4
Yellow/Black -> Tx (Data Out) Hook up to TX wire going to Pin #3
Blue/White -> (- While running [status]) Looks like it goes to the remote???
Green -> .......N.c. NC = No connection? Dont Hook this up?
Pink -> Ignition Hook up to Ignition wire connected to Pin #1?
Black -> .......N.c. Don't hook up?
Any ideas on the simplest way to install this with only the remote start function? I seem to be most confused by the Input/Outputs, how to bypass what I do not need to work. I understand not to hook up any harnesses (D2D and Main) to the Bypass until you have the remote start installed and are holding the program key on the bypass as per instructions. Any help would be appreciated so much [loveff]
cj773 
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Location: Illinois, United States
Posted: December 28, 2012 at 8:12 PM / IP Logged  
I am sorry about the above post, I did not do much research before I wrote that. Can a mod please delete it?
I'm installing a remote start on a 2008 Ford Focus SE with an Avital (4103) and XpressKit ByPass (PKALL). I think I have everything figured out except a few small things. This is an installation guide I made for myself:
Step 1
Primary Harness (H1), 9-pin Connector:
H1/1 Light GREEN/ Black (- Factory Alarm Disarm) ----> Violet/Brown @ Harness in DKP*
H1/2 GREEN / WHITE (- Factory Rearm) ------> ? I don't know of a rearm wire
H1/3 Yellow (+ Ignition Out [To Alarm]) ------> Not Connected
H1/4 WHITE/ Blue (- Activation Input) -------> Not Connected
H1/5 Orange (- Ground when locked output) ------> Not Connected
H1/6 Brown (- Horn Output) ---------> Not Connected
H1/7 RED / White (- Trunk Release) ----------> Not Connected
H1/8 Black (- Chassis Ground Connection) -------> Bolt/Ground
H1/9 White (+/- Light Flash Output) --------->   ? I don't see exactly how to hook this up on this car
Step 2
Heavy Gauge Relay Interface:
1. Pink (+ Output to Ignition Circuit) -----> BROWN / Yellow @ Ignition Switch Harness
2. Purple (+ Output to Starter Circuit) -----> Blue/White @ ISH
3. Orange (+ Output to Accessory Circuit) ------> Violet/Green @ ISH
4 & 6. Red (+ 30A High Current 12 Input) -------> Blue/Red @ ISH
***** Remove the two 30 amp fuses prior to connecting these wires and do not replace them until the satellite has been plugged into the control module. *****
5. Pink/White (+ Programmable Output for Accessory or Ignition) ------> Not Connected
Step 3
Remote Start Harness (H2), 5-pin Connector:
H2/1 BLACK/ White (- Neutral Safety Switch Input) -------> Refer to Figure B Page 20
H2/2 Violet/White (Tachometer Input Wire) ------> Yellow/Orange @ PCM near battery * Tach Learn
H2/3 Brown (+ Brake Switch Shutdown Wire) ------> Violet/White @ Switch above brake pedal
H2/4 Gray (- Hood Pinswitch Shutdown Wire) ------> Connected to hood pinswitch
H2/5 Blue/White (- 200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger Output) -----> Not Connected? Can I leave this disconnected?
Step 4
Plug-in Program Switch (Blue 2-pin Port Near Status LED)
Step 5
D2D and Programmer Interface:
Unplug the heavy gauge 6-pin remote start harness before plugging in D2D connector
Plug D2D 4-pin connector to the red port.
Plug-in the heavy gauge 6-pin remote start harness
Step 6
Install the Remote Start Antenna
Step 7 (Can wait until the end)
Tach Learning:
1. Start the vehicle with the key.
2. Within 5 seconds, press and HOLD the Program switch.
3. The LED will light constant when the tach signal is learned.
4. Release the Program switch.
There are a few ? marks if anyone can help me out with those connections it would be extremely helpful. Now it's down to the XpressKit installation. The vehicle specific guide is here: XpressKit Install for 2008 Focus (I am sorry if links are not allowed)
For the Blue/White while running wire, it says to hook it up to the remote starter? I don't see anything in my remote starter installation guide about where to hook this wire up. This is confusing me a lot.
Also what does the n.c. mean?
Is this the proper way to hook it up:
PURPLE / White Rx Data In ----> Wire @ Pin 4
Yellow/Black Tx Data Out ----> Wire @ Pin 3
Blue/White - While Running ---> (Says to remote starter, im clueless)
Green ----> N.c. ? What do I do with this wire?
Pink -----> Wire @ Pin 1
Black ----> N.c. ? What Do I do with this one? Ground @ Pin 2?
I believe this should be all I need before I can get this install going, besides the running lights in the remote starter installation. Again I'm sorry about the extremely messy post before this, it was my fault for not researching on my own before asking questions. Thanks again =)
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Primary Harness (H1) Wiring Diagram:

H1/1 Light GREEN/ Black ( - Factory Alarm Disarm)   Not used if no Factory Alarm
H1/2 GREEN / WHITE (- Factory Rearm)          Not used if no Factory Alarm
H1/3 Yellow (+ Ignition Out )           Not used
H1/4 WHITE/ Blue (- Activation Input)            Not Used
H1/5 Orange (- Ground when locked)       Not used
H1/6 Brown (- Horn Output)            Blue/White in Steering Column Harness  Optional
H1/7 RED / White (- Trunk Release Output) Not required.  Would need a relay if used.
H1/8 Black (Ground)          To a ground on the car, bolt on metal frame
H1/9 White (+/- Light flash)            Set to +       Connect to Violet/white      At harness in driver's kick panel 

4-Pin Satellite Harness Diagram: What do I use this for?

1 Blue (- Status Output)     To PKALL Connector 2 Blue/White
2 Orange (- Accessory Output)     Not used
3 Purple (- Starter Output)    Not Used
4 Pink (- Ignition Output)     Not Used

Heavy Gauge Relay Wiring Diagram:

1 Pink (+ Output to ignition circuit)        BROWN / Yellow in ignition harness

2 Purple (+ Output to starter circuit)    Blue/White in Ignition Harness
3 Orange (+ Output to accessory circuit)      Violet/Green Ignition Harness
4 Red (+ 30A high current 12 input)    WHITE/ Red @ back of Fuse Box
5 Pink/White (+ Programmable Output )      Not used
6 Red (+ 30A High Current 12V Input )         WHITE/ Red @ back of Fuse Box

Door Lock harness:    Not mandatory but easy to connect, just two more wires...

1 Blue (- Unlock output)   Blue/Green in Driver Kick Panel
2 Not used
3 Green (- Lock output)    Yellow/Purple in Drivers Kick Panel

Remote Start Harness H2 Wiring Diagram:

H2/1 BLACK/ White (- Neutral Safety Switch Input) Chassis Ground if Auto Trans
H2/2 Violet/White (Tachometer Input Wire)           Yellow/Orange at PCM Near battery *** Set 4103 to Tach Mode
H2/3 brown (+ Brake Switch Shutdown Wire)       Violet/White at brake switch
H2/4 Gray (- Hood Pinswitch Shutdown Wire)      Install supplied Hood Pin Switch   Mandatory safety feature
H2/5 Blue/White (- 200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defog )        Not used - optional

PKALL

PURPLE / White to 4 Pin transpondwer connector Pin 4 Violet/Gray
Yellow/Black to 4 Pin transpondwer connector Pin 3 Yellow/Orange
Blue/White to 4103 Blue (-) Status Output
Pink to 4103 thick Pink Ign1
D2D harness to 4103

Soldering is fun!
cj773 
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Posted: December 29, 2012 at 3:04 PM / IP Logged  
Thank you so much man, I really appreciate your help!

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