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clc5145 
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Location: Missouri, United States
Posted: January 30, 2014 at 1:53 PM / IP Logged  
The vehicle is a 2003 Chevrolet Silverado extended cab. Ok, I'm trying to stall my Avital 5103 Alarm/Remote start using Xpresskit DBALL. I've downloaded the current firmware to the DBALL. I've got the Doorlocks working, but no instant trigger when the doors are opened. The alarm will only trigger with shock sensor. Also the remote start will not activate at all. I'm looking for help on what wires I actually need and don't need using the DBALL with D2D. I've included the spreadsheet any information would be helpful. I already printed the wiring information and locations for my specific vehicle.
Vehicle Information: 2003 Chevrolet Silverado LS   
Alarm / Remote Start Unit: Avital Model 5103   
Bypass Module: Xpresskit DBALL   
Alarm / Remote Start / Bypass Unit   Vehicle
Connection     Color     Description     Color     Polarity     Location:
PRIMARY HARNESS (H1), 12-pin Connector
H1/1     RED / White     (-) 200mA AUX Trunk Release Output   
H1/2     Red     (+) Constant Power Input   
H1/3     Brown     (+) Siren   
H1/4     Empty     Not Used   
H1/5     Black     (-) Chassis Ground Input   
H1/6     Violet     (+) Door Trigger Input, Zone 3   
H1/7     Blue     (-) Instant Trigger Input, Zone 3   
H1/8     Green     (-) Door Trigger Input, Zone 3   
H1/9     BLACK/ White     (-) 200mA Domelight Supervision Output   
H1/10     WHITE/ Blue     (-) Remote Start Activation Input   
H1/11     White     (+)/(-) Selectable Light Flash Output   
H1/12     Orange     (-) 500mA Ground When Armed Output   
AUXILIARY HARNESS (H2), 6-pin Connector
H2/1     Light Blue     (-) 200mA Second Unlock Output   
H2/2     WHITE/ Black     (-) 200mA AUX 3 Output   
H2/3     Violet/Black     (-) 200mA AUX 2 Output   
H2/4     GREEN / WHITE     (-) 200mA Factory Alarm Rearm Output   
H2/5     Gray/Black     (-) Wait-To-Start Input   
H2/6      Light GREEN/ Black     (-) 200mA Factory Alarm Disarm Output   
DOOR LOCK HARNESS, 3-pin Connector
1     Light Blue     (-) Unlock (+) Lock Output   
2     Empty     Not Used   
3     Green     (-) Lock (+) Unlock Output   
REMOTE START HARNESS (H3), 5-pin Connector
H3/1     BLACK/ White     (-) Neutral Safety Switch Input   
H3/2     Violet/White     Tachometer Input Wire   
H3/3     Brown     (+) Brake Shutdown Input Wire   
H3/4     Gray     (-) Hood Pin Switch Input, Zone 6   
H3/5     Blue/White     (-) 200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger - Latched Pulsed   
AUX 4, Horn, (H4), 2-pin Connector
H4/1     ORANGE / Black     (-) 200mA AUX 4 Output   
H4/2     Brown     (-) 200mA Horn Output   
HEAVY GAUGE RELAY SATELLITE WIRING HARNESS
H/1     Purple     Starter Output to Starter (Starter Side)   
H/2     Green     Starter Input from Ignition (Key Side)   
H/3     Red     (+) (30A) High Current 12V Input   
H/4     Orange     Output to Accessory Circuit   
H/5     Pink     Output to Primary Ignition Circuit   
H/6     Red      (+) (30A) High Current 12V Input   
H/7     Pink/White     Output to Second Ignition Circuit   
H/8     RED / White     (+) (30A) High Current 12V Input   
RELAY SATELLITE, 4-pin Connector
1     Blue     (-) 200mA Status Output   
2     Orange     (-) 200mA Status Relay Turn On   
3     Purple     (-) 200mA Starter Relay Turn On   
4     Pink     (-) 200mA Ingition Relay Turn On   
DBALL BYPASS UNIT
14 PIN CONNECTOR
2     Violet / YELLOW     J1850   
13     Red     (+) 12v   
14     Black     (-) Ground   
12 PIN CONNECTOR
3     GREEN / WHITE     (-) Front Door Status Output   
4     RED / Black     (-) Trunk Status Output   
5     Violet/White     (AC) Tach Output   
10 PIN CONNECTOR
1     Green     (-) Lock Input   
2     Blue     (-) Unlock Input   
3     RED / White     (-) Rear Hatch Release Input   
6     WHITE/ Black     (-) AUX3 Heated Seats Input   
10     Blue/White     (GWR) Input   
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 3:43 PM / IP Logged  

If you are going D2D between the Avital and the DB-ALL, all the dashed Blue wire connections are handled by the D2D harness.

Not sure if this pertains to your Avital unit but...   http://www.12voltdata.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=8315

The DB-ALL install guide lists most of the necessary connections from the generic remote starter shown to the truck.

PRIMARY HARNESS (H1), 12-pin Connector

H1/1     RED / White     (-) 200mA AUX Trunk Release Output   
H1/2     Red     (+) Constant Power Input      Red   +12V
H1/3     Brown     (+) Siren   siren  
H1/4     Empty     Not Used   
H1/5     Black     (-) Chassis Ground Input                 chassis ground    
H1/6     Violet     (+) Door Trigger Input, Zone 3    
H1/7     Blue     (-) Instant Trigger Input, Zone 3   
H1/8     Green     (-) Door Trigger Input, Zone 3   
H1/9     BLACK/ White     (-) 200mA Domelight Supervision Output   
H1/10     WHITE/ Blue     (-) Remote Start Activation Input   
H1/11     White     (+)/(-) Selectable Light Flash Output        as shown in DB-ALL diagram    ***set to (-)         
H1/12     Orange     (-) 500mA Ground When Armed Output   
AUXILIARY HARNESS (H2), 6-pin Connector
H2/1     Light Blue     (-) 200mA Second Unlock Output   
H2/2     WHITE/ Black     (-) 200mA AUX 3 Output   
H2/3     Violet/Black     (-) 200mA AUX 2 Output   
H2/4     GREEN / WHITE     (-) 200mA Factory Alarm Rearm Output   
H2/5     Gray/Black     (-) Wait-To-Start Input   
H2/6      Light GREEN/ Black     (-) 200mA Factory Alarm Disarm Output   
DOOR LOCK HARNESS, 3-pin Connector
1     Light Blue     (-) Unlock (+) Lock Output   
2     Empty     Not Used   
3     Green     (-) Lock (+) Unlock Output   
REMOTE START HARNESS (H3), 5-pin Connector
H3/1     BLACK/ White     (-) Neutral Safety Switch Input               chassis ground  ( if auto trans )    
H3/2     Violet/White     Tachometer Input Wire   
H3/3     Brown     (+) Brake Shutdown Input Wire          as shown in DB-ALL diagram   
H3/4     Gray     (-) Hood Pin Switch Input, Zone 6        install Avital hood pin         
H3/5     Blue/White     (-) 200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger  
AUX 4, Horn, (H4), 2-pin Connector
H4/1     ORANGE / Black     (-) 200mA AUX 4 Output   
H4/2     Brown     (-) 200mA Horn Output           black (-)  BCM, gray plug, pin B9  
HEAVY GAUGE RELAY SATELLITE WIRING HARNESS
H/1     Purple     Starter Output to Starter (Starter Side)          Yellow    
H/2     Green     Starter Input from Ignition (Key Side)   Yellow
H/3     Red     (+) (30A) High Current 12V Input          Red 
H/4     Orange     Output to Accessory Circuit   Orange     
H/5     Pink     Output to Primary Ignition Circuit          Pink   
H/6     Red      (+) (30A) High Current 12V Input         RED / White     
H/7     Pink/White     Output to Second Ignition Circuit             White         
H/8     RED / White     (+) (30A) High Current 12V Input RED / White
RELAY SATELLITE, 4-pin Connector
1     Blue     (-) 200mA Status Output   
2     Orange     (-) 200mA Status Relay Turn On          for external relay & Brown ACC2 wire
3     Purple     (-) 200mA Starter Relay Turn On   
4     Pink     (-) 200mA Ingition Relay Turn On        

A few notes.

1.  The DB-ALL does not supply the rear door status signal, only the front doors.
2.  The Avital  might not be able to handle the Tach thru the D2D data connection.  You might have to hardwire this signal.
3.  The Brown ACC2 ignition wire might not be necessary.

The 2003 Yukon Pictorial should be very similar to your 2003 Silverado.  Here is a link :

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~133000~PN~1

Soldering is fun!
clc5145 
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Location: Missouri, United States
Posted: January 30, 2014 at 5:29 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks man. I appreciate your help. I didn't hook up the last RED / white (+) 12v from the remote start harness. I couldn't figure out where that was supposed to go since my wiring diagram didn't show another 12 volt input at the ignition harness.

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