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5706 install can't get the door lock/unlock


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lt1ssb 
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Posted: September 26, 2015 at 1:07 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lt1ssb
So pretty straight forward went from a viper 791vx to the newer 5906v I got every thing working so far except the door locks and unlocks
I had them working perfect before and tapped in the same 2 wires on the door lock relay
Any help here appreciated
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Posted: September 26, 2015 at 6:37 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote smokeman1
Check your connections. Soldered or ?? Check that the connector is seated properly.
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Posted: September 26, 2015 at 11:56 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote stanward
I would double-check the (-) outputs of the blue and green wires from the 3-pin connector.
Double-check with a DMM to make sure it's pulsing (-) out each time you arm/disarm.
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Posted: September 27, 2015 at 10:46 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote davep.

The 791 has (had, in your case) (+) and (-) lock trigger outputs. The 5906 is (-) only. Because your locks don't work with the 5906 with no other changes, I suspect your locks are (+) trigger, and you will need to invert the lock output with relays, or use a lock module.

Unplug the 3 pin lock harness from the 5906. Measure the blue and green wires to ground with your VOM. If you see 0-Volts, the car is (+) trigger. If you see voltage (usually 12, but sometimes lower on newer cars) it's (-) trigger. Or post the Model and year of what you're working on, and we can look up the lock system type  instead of guessing.

lt1ssb 
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Posted: September 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lt1ssb
Thanks didn't know the 791 did +/-
The car is a 1996 Chevy Impala SS I am able to connect on the relays for the door locks directly there is a double relay pack I have pulled down from under the dash
Thanks for reply
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Posted: September 28, 2015 at 11:47 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lt1ssb
Unplugged door lock harness rests at 0
Positive on lock 12v
Negative 12v on unlock
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Posted: September 28, 2015 at 12:26 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lt1ssb
Using ttaps on this nod heat shrinks butt connectors on everything else except the ignition wires I soldered
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Posted: September 28, 2015 at 12:39 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
The lock triggers are POS (+) use a 451 module or a pair of relays.
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Posted: September 28, 2015 at 12:40 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
Oh and throw away the t taps and butt connectors, solder everything after testing.
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Posted: September 29, 2015 at 9:29 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lt1ssb
Ok I have 10 451 modules here I have only used them 2 times before my brain cancer and 400000 seizures my brain is damaged
1 will a 451 serve to work all 4 doors or do I need 2
2 wiring diagram for this
3 thanks if you need I can post from 96 fsm factory wiring diagram
4 can I plug the proximity sensor in the second port on this nrain next to the shock sensor with a dedicated power and ground
It took me to long solder all heavy gauges and power these are only 2 ttap the hood trunk tach and only one more butt connector I can't use my right arm and whole right side is in so much pain all the time
May I also ask on option for back up battery read a lot of negatives on the viper back up battery I bought I decided not to use
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