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2018 Subaru Outback 2.5 Premium, No Push Button


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navyrunner 
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Posted: October 25, 2018 at 3:12 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote navyrunner
Hello all, looking for help with an install. I’m planning on putting a Viper 5706 into a new Subaru Outback. It has a standard key so no push button start. Does anyone have the wire colors and locations? Appreciate the help!
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Posted: October 28, 2018 at 6:51 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
You will find that with these newer cars, the chosen bypass module will have all the
necessary vehicle wires listed and shown in the install guide. Here is a link to
the DB3 bypass module install guide for your car :
https://directechs.blob.core.windows.net/ddt/403-SUBARU8-1.03-ORI_2018-Subaru-Outback_IG_EN_20180502.pdf
Which brings us to a very important detail. I'm pretty sure your 2018 Outback
has keys that have transponder chips inside them. You have decided on a Viper
5706 R/S unit, have you also decided on a bypass module? The obvious choice would
seem to be a DB3 but you will encounter a major obstacle with the install. Not
only do you need to flash the DB3 with the correct firmware for your 2018 Outback
but you must use the Key2GO process during DB3 to vehicle programming. That step
requires a dealer authorized connection to DEI to process the transponder chip info.
The other way would require an extra working key and some involved wiring to handle
the locks and alarm, among other things. The bypass module makes the install much easier.
Soldering is fun!
navyrunner 
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Posted: October 29, 2018 at 9:51 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote navyrunner
Apologies for the late reply Kreg. Thank you for the great info. The last install I did was on a ‘11 Sienna early last year and I had to flash the module about a dozen times to get the slider doors to work with the alarm. I wasn’t aware of the change with Directed so I did some searches and read some of your old posts about it. I saw that you are a fan of Fortin. Do you have any recommendations on a good 2-way alarm and module that might meet my needs?
I’ve also done an install before using a valet key that I filed down the groves on. I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to doing the key route but I’d like to get your thoughts or preferences.
Again, I really appreciate the response and info.
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Posted: October 30, 2018 at 10:25 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
You could go with the Viper 5706 and a Fortin EVO-ALL bypass module. Fortin uses a process called DCryptor
that is similar to the DB3's Key2GO or iDatalinks KLON process. You would need to purchase the Fortin
FlashLink2 cable (~$45 ) but DIY is still possible with Fortin. You would select Option F3 during EVO-ALL
firmware flash to enable DBI D2D communications between the Viper and the EVO-ALL. Here is a link to the
EVO-ALL Install Guide :
   http://cdn02.fortin.ca/download/71981/evo-all_ig_reg_bi_sub_outback_2018_key_a_71981.pdf
The guide details what functions are handled by the bypass module and all the necessary wire connections.
Soldering is fun!
navyrunner 
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Posted: November 03, 2018 at 3:34 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote navyrunner
Thank you again for the great information. I think I’m going to follow your advice and go with the 5706 and the Fortin EVO-ALL. I wanted to stick with the Viper system because I’m familiar with it and have a bitwriter. As you’ve said, it will just be a learning curve like with anything else.
I’ll be doing this install at the end of the month if my sister can bring her car down for a few days. I’ll try to take pictures and document how it goes for others.
Again, I appreciate the advice and help Kreg!

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