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meh66 
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Posted: July 24, 2004 at 6:56 PM / IP Logged  

I really need help with this one. I wired a Criime Stopper 2011RS IV to a 2002 Chrsyler Voyager with no factory alarm and I am having some problems. The remote start function works every other time, I did notice when the alarm chirp three times in a row it would start and when it  chirp twice and then made a funny sound it not, the would keep cranking but nothing would turn over.I did read somewhere primary and secondary starter wire multiplexes. What do they mean by multiplexing? I did not think we had to use a spare key or immobilizer by pass module since it did not have an alarm. The other problem is the check engine light is on and I disconnected the battery but it came back on. The check engine light is on when the car has been started with the key.  Did I damage the BCM? I did pull out one of the 30a fuses out to the alarm so I can disable the remote start until I can get back to the vehicle, would this cause the engine light to come. I also would like some clarification on the adminstrator note # 12 below. Where do I connect the 180 ohm resistor or is this resistance provided by the relay. I used the wiring diagram provided by the administrator posted on 3/7/03:

I know this is a big post but  really need to figure this one out as this is my friends car and any help would be much appreciated. No excuses, but this is only my third alarm and with 12volt 's help I installed the first two with no problems., so I felt good about this one.

Here's what they provided for a 2002 Voyager:

|       ITEM      |     WIRE COLOR |POL|       WIRE LOCATION    |
|              12V|lt blue/red (10A) *1|+  |ignition harness    |
|          STARTER|yellow          |+  |ignition harness        |
|   SECOND STARTER|PURPLE / brown *12|-  |ignition harness        |
|         IGNITION|pink/white      |+  |ignition harness        |
|        ACCESSORY|*11             |   |                        |
|       POWER LOCK|PURPLE / green *3 |-  |conn. 3, pin 21 @ BCM *2|
|     POWER UNLOCK|same wire       |   |                        |
|       LOCK MOTOR|tan/white       |   |conn. 2, pin 10 @ BCM *2|
|     UNLOCK MOTOR|tan/lt. green   |   |conn. 2, pin 28 @ BCM *2|
|    DISARM DEFEAT|tan/brown       |   |conn. 2, pin 26 @ BCM *2|
| PARKING LIGHTS +|DO NOT USE      |   |                        |
| PARKING LIGHTS -|WHITE/ brown *8  |   |headlight switch        |
|       HEADLIGHTS|same wire       |   |                        |
|     DOOR TRIGGER|*4              |-  |BCM *2                  |
| DOME SUPERVISION|use door trigger|   |                        |
|  TRUNK/HATCH PIN|PURPLE / orange *9|-  |conn. 3, pin 29 @ BCM *2|
|         HOOD PIN|PURPLE / lt. blue |-  |conn. 3, pin 30 @ BCM *2|
|TRNK/HTCH RELEASE|*10             |   |*10                     |
|  FCTRY ALARM ARM|PURPLE / lt. blue |*5 |conn. 3, pin 14 @ BCM *2|
|FCTRY ALRM DISARM|same wire       |   |                        |
|       TACHOMETER|*6              |   |ignition coil pack      |
|      SPEED SENSE|blue/orange     |   |PCM *7                  |
|       BRAKE WIRE|WHITE/ tan       |+  |brake pedal switch      |
|     HORN TRIGGER|GREEN/ purple    |-  |steering column         |
|           WIPERS|brn/wht & brn/org   |+  |wiper motor             |
|  LF WINDOW UP/DN|org/lt grn - org/wht|A  |drivers window switch   |
|  RF WINDOW UP/DN|org/tan - org/gry   |A  |drivers kick panel      |
|  LR WINDOW UP/DN|org/blu - org/lt blu|A  |drivers kick panel      |
|  RR WINDOW UP/DN|org/gry - org/grn   |A  |drivers kick panel      |
|        RADIO 12V|gray/red        |+  |radio                   |
|     RADIO GROUND|                |   |                        |
|     RADIO SWITCH|blue/pink       |+  |radio                   |
| RADIO ILLUMINATE|ORANGE / tan      |+  |radio                   |
|       LF SPEAKER|green - grn/brn |   |radio                   |
|       RF SPEAKER|gray - gray/brn |   |radio                   |
|       LR SPEAKER|grn/blu - grn/org   |   |radio                   |
|       RR SPEAKER|gry/blu - gry/org   |   |radio                   |

Notes: NOTE: Chrysler vehicles that use a gray ignition key have an immobilizer system that needs to be bypassed when remote starting. Use DEI part number 555C or 555U. *1 This wire is rated at 10 amps only. If installing any system with high current outputs, go to battery for 12v. *2 The BCM is in the drivers kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. *3 Lock is negative trigger thru a 5.3K ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 2.0K ohm resistor. MUST use relays. *4 There are separate door triggers for each door, they are all in connector 3 at the BCM. The driver door trigger is purple in pin 6, the passenger door is PURPLE / white in pin 7, the left sliding door is PURPLE / gray in pin 8, and the right sliding door is purple / YELLOW in pin 5. Use all four and diode isolate each. See directfax document #1076 for wiring information. *5 Arm is negative trigger thru a 1.5K ohm resistor, this will also lock the doors. Disarm is negative trigger thru a 9.1K ohm resistor, if use double pulse this will also unlock the doors. MUST use relays. *6 On the 2.4L use blue/green or blue/tan. On the 3.3L/3.8L use blue/green, blue/tan or blue/orange. *7 The PCM is behind the driver side headlight. VSS is in the gray plug, pin 66. *8 The parking lights are negative trigger thru a 2.1K ohm resistor. The headlights are negative trigger thru a 790 ohm resistor. There is a rest resistance on the wire, so MUST use a relay to isolate away from the switch. See directfax document #1082 for wiring information. *9 A diode must be placed inline on this wire to avoid problems with the dome lights and parking lights. *10 Hatch release is PURPLE / tan in connector 2, pin 6 at the BCM. It is negative trigger thru a 1.69K ohm resistor. Left power sliding door is PURPLE / blue in connector 3, pin 1 at the BCM. It is negative trigger thru a 1.5K ohm resistor. Right power sliding door is the same wire as the left and it is negative trigger thru a 2.7K ohm resistor. Must use relays. *11 Accessory is not required for remote start. *12 The second starter wire is negative trigger thru a 180 ohm resistor. MUST use relay. Refer to directfax document #1083 for wiring information.

MEH66
"Car Performance and Mobile Electronic Enthusiats"
tampa77 
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Posted: July 24, 2004 at 7:07 PM / IP Logged  

The check engine light should go out, I just instaled a similiar R/S in a 02 Caravan, same thing.  The check engine light came on when I neglected to use the correct resistor for the  2nd starter wire, then after five starts it went out and stayed out. It was tripped from failed start attempts most likely.

You need to engage the 2nd started wire with a (-) 180 OHM pulse only when the starter engages - you will need to have the resitor between the (-) output of the relay to the connection to the 2nd starter wire. Tap into the 12V starter output from the R/S unit to activate the relay, that way it powers up when the start attempts.

As for the immobilzor, if your key is a thick & grey you need it, if your key is a thinner black you don't. 

meh66 
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Posted: July 24, 2004 at 11:03 PM / IP Logged  

thanks tampa77

Tell me if I am wrong in assuming the following relay connections. pin 86 to starter side of the kill relay wire, pin 87 to 180 ohm resistor and the resistor to PURPLE / brown wire. pins 30 and 85 grounded and 87a is not used.

MEH66
"Car Performance and Mobile Electronic Enthusiats"

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